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Alfred Borden
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Hi,

I have a question about the minimum time you should practice every day - so that the practice makes sense at all.

I am asking this, because at the moment, I am very busy and I have a maximum of 15 minutes per day to practice.

Since this is really not much time, I was wondering, if practicing so little makes sense at all?
Or should I better wait a couple of months with practicing until I have more time to do it?

Thanks.
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If you enjoy your 15 minutes, yeah, go for it! If it feels like a miserable chore, maybe not so much.

Bottom line, if you spend a short time daily, choose to make it meaningful.

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I have a 2-year and an 8 month old, work a night job, and am enrolled in College.

I am a testament to multiple quick sessions paying off. I maybe have anywhere from 15-45 minutes to practice while they are napping or occupied.

Make the most use out of it, PLAN IT OUT You have to make it STRUCTURED otherwise you will wast time, make a schedule for the week and break down what you feel you need to work on. You might not achieve everything on the schedule but at least you have a pathway.

If I'm working on something like Richard Osterlind's Watch Routine

Monday - Work on basic moves to get the routine done, A*** N*** P**k, writing down something, business with watch, reveal. 10 minutes
Tuesday - Work on script. 10 minutes
Wednesday - Work on script and movements. 20 minutes
Thursday - Rehearse everything and write down what you need to work on. 15 minutes
Friday - Rehearse everything again >15 minutes....

It's a rough sketch but seriously, you don't have an excuse not to if you have a small chunk of time.

If you have a passion for something you will make time for it.
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What Blindside785 said. Mindless practice waste most of the time.

Plan things and work in a structured fashion. You can also optimize your workspace to make repeating a move several times as fast as possible.

For single moves, you can also practice without thinking while watching a movie or something like that. It gives you some additional time to get your body familiar with the move.
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I think there is nothing like minimum daily practice. Your practice must be based on specific moves or effects or tasks - not like a regimen. After you get one down, you can take a break until you feel like taking up the next one. Very sensible advise from Blindside785.
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Focus really is the key, I think. Decide on something you want to learn and dedicate yourself to learning it.

I find it really hard to turn my brain off once I am thinking about something. If it's an effect...or a book...or a "whatever" it doesn't really matter: I find that even if I am not physically working on a prop or effect I am thinking about it.

Mentalism is at least 50% thinking. Smile

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There are lots of scientific studies, books, and articles around optimizing practice time.

And I can say with 100% certainty that some of the advice here is, and I am being quite literal, among the worst things you can do (even worse, in some instances, than not practicing). Maybe it works for them but I actually doubt they've every done comparisons between practicing style.

So, instead of giving advice without any scientific backup (and that may or may not fly in the face of science, so I'm guessing some are Americans who think they know more than infectious disease experts... maybe they can tell you how car accidents are infectious or something, I don't know how they think), let me just get you started:
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=science+behind+optimizing+practice

and for some of the others here: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=comparing+diseases+to+auto+accidents
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On Jun 28, 2020, Alfred Borden wrote:
Hi,

I have a question about the minimum time you should practice every day - so that the practice makes sense at all.

I am asking this, because at the moment, I am very busy and I have a maximum of 15 minutes per day to practice.

Since this is really not much time, I was wondering, if practicing so little makes sense at all?
Or should I better wait a couple of months with practicing until I have more time to do it?

Thanks.


My kids right now are 20, 22 and 25. When they were 10, 12 and 15 they all took piano lessons for a year or so. Then they all quit. I told them that they no longer play because they don't sound good and they don't enjoy it.

So that summer I asked them to do something everyday that summer. Do something for just 15 minutes a day. Just 15 minutes a day, that's it.

So they all decided (based on my recommendation) to play piano for 15 minutes everyday. I didn't care what they played, play chop sticks, play from a book, play from youtube. Just sit there at the piano for 15 minutes. They did.

Now two of them play piano. My son is real good and we play together. I play guitar and he plays piano along with it. Although he gets mad because all I play is the blues and he wants to play some complex classical piano music. haha

My older daughter also plays

My younger daughter? Well she's another story. I always say she doesn't even listen to right music.

But the point is you can do a lot in 15 minutes a day if you want.

Although I don't necessarily believe you only have 15 minutes a day. But who am I? Nobody! So if it's 15 minutes you have then go at it.
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On Jul 2, 2020, Chris K wrote:
There are lots of scientific studies, books, and articles around optimizing practice time.

And I can say with 100% certainty that some of the advice here is, and I am being quite literal, among the worst things you can do (even worse, in some instances, than not practicing). Maybe it works for them but I actually doubt they've every done comparisons between practicing style.

So, instead of giving advice without any scientific backup (and that may or may not fly in the face of science, so I'm guessing some are Americans who think they know more than infectious disease experts... maybe they can tell you how car accidents are infectious or something, I don't know how they think), let me just get you started:
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=science+behind+optimizing+practice

and for some of the others here: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=comparing+diseases+to+auto+accidents


Hey, wait a minute. I'm American. Was I just insulted! Good thing I practice (right or wrong) the fine art of patience.
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Oh and also I would like to add (even though it's not scientific and I am American) something I heard Bob Sheets say once.

He said that he always has something set up in the house. And whenever he walks by it he practices it for a few minutes.

Like he may have cups and balls set up on a table.

Whenever he walks by the table he does some cups and balls moves. I always thought that was interesting. And God knows, Bob Sheets is a master.
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Although purely my personal opinion based on personal experience related to my professional performances in my professional life, I think about 25 hours a day may be just about right.
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Sounds professionally personal. Or personally professional.
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