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emyers99
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Peter is a fantastic guy and has come up with a really great way to get legit dupes that the spectators really sign but don’t know about. Like everything, there is a process but Peter covers it in a really strong warm up effect. I won’t say the effect but it’s a classic that I’ve been doing for 20 yrs. Never thought I’d change the method I use but Peter’s version is far superior. The shows and proofs are crazy good and make the impact even better...and the best part is that it also sets you up with the dupes. I love it.
Peter Gröning
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Eric,
Thank you so much for generosity. I'm so happy you like it so much, that you are willing to change method after so many years.

Here's a link to a video on youtube with some testimonials:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEr0V8G0......DUl2MKnc

My best wishes,
Peter
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On Jul 31, 2020, Peter Gröning wrote:
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On Jul 31, 2020, Yehuda wrote:
Yeah, I got that. I don't know what this new one is about. I was just saying that there is a method to obtain a duplicate in a subtle way, and as long as it's working duplicate from the audience's perspective (which it would be in many contexts), this is definitely a method. And it only requires the spectator to sign once.

I'm sure Peter's work on this makes it a subtle method, but in that regard, nothing is more subtle than the spectator actually only signing once.

Yehuda


Hi Yehuda,
As far as the spectators are concerned, they are only aware of making the signature once in the course of action. From what you write I presume you believe it must happen twice - it doesn't.
I do understand that this probably doesn't make sense if you are not familiar with the method, but it's true non the less.
In a related thread regarding Resigned to Miracles, emyers99 wrote:

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The signatures are real. Essentially Peter has come up with a way to get authentic signatures without the spectators knowing they exist. No gimmicks. No high tech or even low tech gizmo. Just brilliant routining.


If interested, you'll find the entire thread here (there's a full review of the entire book by Madison):

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......start=20

I hope this helps clearing things up.

My best wishes,
Peter

Hey, Peter. Read some of the reviews and info in that thread. Sounds like a really cool concept! And yes, you were correct that I had assumed, from what people had said earlier here, that the spectator must sign twice. My misunderstanding.

Also, I apologize if I came across as though I was taking anything away from what you’ve created. Absolutely not (how could when I don’t even know the concept!). I was just responding to the comment that there’s no other way to get a dupe when the spectator signs one time, so I gave another source.

Good luck with this!

Yehuda
Peter Gröning
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Hey, Peter. Read some of the reviews and info in that thread. Sounds like a really cool concept! And yes, you were correct that I had assumed, from what people had said earlier here, that the spectator must sign twice. My misunderstanding.

Also, I apologize if I came across as though I was taking anything away from what you’ve created. Absolutely not (how could when I don’t even know the concept!). I was just responding to the comment that there’s no other way to get a dupe when the spectator signs one time, so I gave another source.

Good luck with this!

Yehuda [/quote]

Hi Yehuda,

No worries, and thanks for your well wishes. Smile

My best,
Peter
Peter Gröning
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Hi all,

To clarify matters: "Resigned to Miracles introduces a method for secretly obtaining genuine signatures from one or two spectators on the backs of playing cards.".
This is to say that the secretly obtained signatures are on the backs of playing cards - NOT ON THE FACES.

As I state in the book, and as Madison has written in his comprehensive review, this is not really an issue. But I do want it to be quite clear, as I don't want to appear as misleading.

My best wishes,
Peter
Rachmaninov
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Is there a way to use your concept to have a duplicate signature on the face ?
Peter Gröning
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Hi Rachmaninov,

No it's not. If you are looking for a way to perform material you already know, and this is a must, then this isn't going to solve your problems.
Though, if you are willing to try something new, there's a lot of other stuff made possible by the concept, that is well worth doing. I'm biased, of course, but others also make a strong case of it being immaterial having backs signed, rather than fronts. It's only the impact of the effects that matters. Madison posted a very comprehensive review in the other thread about Resigned to Miracles, which addresses his opinions on this: https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......start=20

I hope the above is of help to you. If there's anything else you want to ask - fire away. Smile

My best wishes,
Peter
Rachmaninov
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Peter,
Thanks for your complete answer. Definitely an idea that I will explore through your book.

Best
Mathieu
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Peter,
Thanks for your complete answer. Definitely an idea that I will explore through your book.

Best
Mathieu


Mathieu,

My pleasure. By your post I take it that you ordered a copy. If so, thank you for having faith in me; I hope you'll enjoy it.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the concept and the book.

If anything is unclear, just ask and I'll do my best to answer your questions.

My best wishes,
Peter
Rachmaninov
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I’ve not ordered it yet. I purchase most of my books from Vanishing inc. when there are some sales.
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On Aug 8, 2020, Rachmaninov wrote:
I’ve not ordered it yet. I purchase most of my books from Vanishing inc. when there are some sales.


My bad. Sounds like a plan.

Peter
Dr. JK
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Today I released my review of Resigned to Miracles from Hermetic Press and Penguin Magic.

Let me know your thoughts on the book as well!

https://youtu.be/gJsj2fTkSQ4
- Jeff Kowalk, The Psychic CPA
www.psychiccpa.com
Peter Gröning
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Jeff,

Thank you so much for your very comprehensive review. I'm floored by your effort effort and your insightful comments. You give very sound advice.

My best wishes,
Peter
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