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Agree with Mike. The shuffling of the cards FU and having him think of one does in fact cleverly hide the method. Good impromptu trick.
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Sounds like the description is accurate.
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Just fantastic. There was an invisible deck variation by Bob King called New Wave Prediction that used a very similar approach. That, of course, required a R/S deck. The idea of having a spec count off the corresponding number of cards sounds dreadful (and in the case of NWP, it was), but this time the post-rationale is reasonable and the end effect is so startling that it truly makes up for the laborious exercise of having a spec count off cards. The demo is otherwise very fair in that it features what's pretty much a worst case outcome. You generally have a very good chance of either zero fishing or the appearance, even to a magician, of zero fishing. Highly recommended.
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I'm a huge John Bannon fan and his AK47 trick is great. But if I had to compare that one with this I would give a slight nod to Allan's version.

Couple things I thought of you could do is 1.Place the deck in the exact middle of your close up mat and turn around when the spectator makes the cut and then face front and you will know which is the top half. 2. After shuffling FU and him thinking of a card, you could do an overhand in jog shuffle control keeping everything you need in place. 3. I like the idea of the spectator looking for a card as you shuffle FU and not not telling the spec. he can think of ANY card, even one he didn't see. If you do that it gives the reason for the shuffle, otherwise why shuffle. This is an excellent anytime impromptu trick.
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On Aug 2, 2020, magicthree wrote:
2. After shuffling FU and him


Hey, FU too man! Smile
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Dman,

Not sure what you mean by that post?
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2. After shuffling FU and him


Hey, FU too man! Smile


Comedy is hard.
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Yea, no one has said that to me in a while.
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2. After shuffling FU and him


Hey, FU too man! Smile


Comedy is hard.


Especially on the Café Smile
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I preferred Carey's "Think and Sync" to Bannon's "AK47"... We talked about "Think and Sync" and "AK47" (differences and strengths) here: https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......orum=206

But now that I know about it, my favorite version is "Think of One". Smile
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Ipe,

would you please tell us why you prefer "Think of one" over "Think and Sync" and "AK47"?
One could state in "AK47" you put every single time a physical card for revelation on the table. This is not the case with "Think of one".

Question to all:
Does a physical revelation hits harder than a spoken revelation???
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Great effect, rediscovered this in his book. The explanation covers EVERYTHING. What a fun and powerful piece of impromptu card magic to know. Could see this one fooling the guys during a late night jam. Smile
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Ipe,

would you please tell us why you prefer "Think of one" over "Think and Sync" and "AK47"?

Hi Kollo,

As I wrote in the other thread, I prefer TAS over AK47 because:

1) In TAS, the needed peek is more stealth. Sometimes it is almost like nothing is needed here.
2) I prefer to work with a complete deck like in TAS. This is subtle, but someone can later say the performer could estimate the number of removed cards looking at the deck.
3) In TAS, the end is more straightforward method-wise so easier for the performer.
4) I prefer, I think it is more justified, the spectator removes a random number of cards to generate a random card (like in TAS) rather than to create a value in mind and then, only for commitment, remove that number of cards from the deck (like in AK47).

Regarding (1), it is still true that TAS has a more stealth peek, but I really like how TOO handles this point: it feels organic and it adds something to the presentation.

Regarding (2), I would prefer to work with a complete deck (avoiding the estimation hypothesis), but I think the other pros outweigh this con.

Regarding (3), I found the end of TOO to be easy enough to manage it without any problem.

Regarding (4), I still think that is more justified to use the random generator explanation instead of the commitment one. But in TOO you don't have only the commitment explanation, but you have the locating explanation too (even if the packet in the card case is smaller... I think this is an irrelevant point for the spectator).


Beside, when I read on paper the "mate strategy" used in TAS and AK47, I really liked the idea. But practicing it with real people, I found that they don't much like one of the two outs. The locating explanation is very good from a presentation point of view, but also method-wise because it removes the (for me) weak mate strategy.

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One could state in "AK47" you put every single time a physical card for revelation on the table. This is not the case with "Think of one".

You can always do a physical revelation also in TOO, if you want.

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Question to all:
Does a physical revelation hits harder than a spoken revelation???

I think it really depends on how you do that. In general, I really like to commit myself with a physical evidence, then ask the secret information to the spectator and then reveal the physical evidence. But I think there is room for different revelations, even just to vary the spectators' experience.
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Thank you very much, ipe!
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Thanks to ipe for those thoughts regarding TAS VS. AK47 VS. TOO.
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Kollo, PaulGee, you're welcome. Smile
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This is a convoluted fishing trip. just like its similar ak47, etc. The Magic Café is a partner with Penguin magic. IF you speak the truth,
they will delete you. NO truth or freedom of speech here. I hope they are happy with their average of like 30 people online at a time.

I do this in a professional way. No fishing. No questions needed on the card. No counting no bs. But the MC has to fool you and want you to always buy the latest tomfoolery. So the MC is here to fool magicians basically.
To remain in mediocre magic. And to agree how wonderful it is. I really don't care if they ban me. because this site is not worthy of
a great magician's posts.
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That last line got me. Yet I continue to post anyway Smile
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After more thinking, I came up with an hybrid version between "Think of One" and "Think and Sync". So I can take what I like from both TOO and TAS.

Here my explanation: https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......&start=8
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Think of One creates a miracle. The "fishing" people have mentioned is minimal and is really part of the banter between the performer and the audience member. I haven't read Allan Kronzek's book, but am quite happy that he collaborated with Penguin to present this borrowed deck miracle.
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