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I am looking for a device that can deliver a coin to a hand without needing to do a body steal proper. Similar to Hidden Hand by Sean Fields.

The issue is I want to do this sleeveless, or else I could just use a holdout system of any variety.

Can anyone recommend a device that they have tested that can accomplish this? Is 'Hidden Hand' the only publicly released mechanism of this nature that can be done sleeveless?

I appreciate any feedback offered.
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TKO 2.0 will handle it.
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Raven from Chazpro is an alternate method. But it requires a special coin, you may already have.
And if you have that special coin, then there are several methods of delivery.
Hook coin.

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Hi the Raven would require sleeves correct? Your talking about a traditional Raven p**l?
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Raven can be done with short sleeves.

Demo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozFJN4jxHfs
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Other options.

Control by Darryl Vanamburg
Pro:
Powerful, very powerful. Two hour instructions. Lots of options and comes with a "kit".

Cons:
Cost. Size. Weak concealment, treat it like TT. Loud. Read the reviews.

Silent Assistant.
Pro:
Cost. Smaller, better concealment. Quite.

Cons: Weak. No kit. Sans Minds.

Everything has a trade off.
Right down a list of wants. Then right a list of all the device options.
Then compare and see which best meets your needs.
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Until you try a magnetic holdout on the side of the back pocket, do not discount it. you naturally lower your hand anyways. You can ditch, cover and retrieve with this natural move.
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There is a whole other conversation on Gregory Wilson Split Focus.

GO HERE:

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......c=670021

To me it appears that I already have several versions of this already. Clocking in at $150, with no major innovations, I'll pass.
Thank you for pointing this out MB. Always helps to show options.
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Ah yes a Raven can be used in short sleeves, I forgot about this..

It does seem like a more appropriate method to ditch an object though. Rather then a device to deliver an object to a hand.

Again, let me clarify, I am seeking to go from empty hands, to having a coin delivered to my hand, while wearing no sleeves.

Thanks for the input guys.
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On Aug 18, 2020, Jerry wrote:
There is a whole other conversation on Gregory Wilson Split Focus.

GO HERE:

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......c=670021

To me it appears that I already have several versions of this already. Clocking in at $150, with no major innovations, I'll pass.
Thank you for pointing this out MB. Always helps to show options.


Just showing this, not for the effect or the coins, but as to the request here of how to (more simply) invisibly deliver a coin to the hand, as suggested above my post.
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How about this?

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Dougini, I do not think the OP wants any gimmick coins or devices.
I love "NOW U C IT". I agree it is one of the best secret weapons in coin magic.

But, it does have some limitations.
You can not go into a routine with other coins or use is with a coin box for example.
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If you'd prefer to use sleight of hand, perhaps the Sylvester Pitch would work for you. If not, could you provide some more context of what you're looking to do?
All about borrowed coins.
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Hiya doing Doug? Smile

Hey, I used to have something like this long ago called, "Fickle Nickel." Looks to work the same way and this version of it addresses the request I used to have of wanting it to be a bigger coin...Hooray for that! Smile That it is here as dollar size coin makes it much more visible and amazing looking. I remember it being a fun effect, but Jerry brings up some good points about it to be further considered.

And Rocket, the "Sylvester Pitch" could produce this (without a gaff) effect as originally asked for here alrighty, pretty believably I'd say. I actually use my little Quick Pitch to do just this for many years now. Smile *And also, my 10 Switch could deliver this as well. Smile
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John Cornelius Fickle nickel is vanishing only. This is a production.
I guess you could reverse the method, but I think that would be awkward. Gravity will work against you.

"The Hidden Hand" - is NOT the answer. It is complete trash.

OP stated "device that can deliver a coin to a hand without needing to do a body steal proper". And no sleeves.

All the device mentioned and suggested so far are not acceptable.

No sleeves
No coat
No body steals
No holdouts
No clips
No gimmick coins
No hand apparatus
Hands empty

I do not know if anything exists that meets this criterion.
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This is just too easy. ☺️

Just saying, but the the OP doesn’t seem to be totally against half the stuff you mention here...And he actually speaks of “holdouts” as a viable alternative.

But anyway as to Fickle Nickel, it was always an effect of vanish “and” production...Always! And it is just as easy to produce the coin as it is to vanish it, nothing “awkward” to it at all, no more than what you see with newer takes that are mentioned here. But don’t take my word for it (as you clearly haven’t- NP), see for yourself as it’s an old trick...

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If you go the "untucked shirt" route, the "Secret Servante" by Sean Goodman would work and is on sale right now @ VI
https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic-......ervante/
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MB - Your correct, you can vanish AND appear the coin, once you are SETUP.
The video does not show how he got into his hands. You have place the coin into your hand using a certain method.
I am basing this on John Cornelius method, your method may have improved on it without a setup required.

However, both Fickle and Now U See It are tethered. This limit the coin, unless a switch is made.

Correct also, OP only disregarded Raven so far.
No mention on Poof TKO, countrymaven holdout or your suggestion on Split Focus (although $150 for the set may beyond their requirements).

I believe Secret Servante is the best answer.
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Thanks Jerry.

I actually was never speaking of Fickle Nickel as a solution here, I was just responding to the mention of Now UC It, Now U Don't.

And also again, I was not mentioning Split Focus as an effect, but to point toward a way to bring a "coin to hand invisibly" via the method used by Wilson's effect. The method he uses does not cost $150, more like $5-10 bucks depending on what you use. I have used an old money clip to do this quite effectively enough, without doing this effect at all. I was simply pointing to the piece of it that the OP needed. Figured people would recognize it easy enough beyond the cost of the effect.

And finally here, PD's recommendation of Sean's wonderful "Secret Servante" is indeed a good, flexible solution that should be given a try. Smile
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