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shakuni
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Hi,

Can anyone please tell me what is the name of this version of cups and balls that is performed while sitting in padmasana,



Its clearly not the traditional Indian cups and balls (Cheppum Panthum) but I am not sure if its published or what is its name.

Thanks!
countrymaven
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I would suggest, since you have not had a reply to this post, that this magician is doing the move from the Indian cups and balls, without the traditional Indian cups with the stem. This is very important because it shows you can do the normal Indian c. n balls "move' without regular cups......... very useful.
ekins
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I agree with countrymaven, that he's doing a modified Cheppum Panthum to work with a cup without a stem. Take a look at Gary performing with the standard cups and you'll see similarities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t88TicT-6U

Here's another version from an Indian talent show that illustrates some other variations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niykzRINfeU
MagicVin
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Wow! Does any one know a good resource for learning the movies they are using? It seems like, altho using cups and balls and producing a similar affect, the moves must be different.
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Chuck Finley
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Abbott's sells a book that is actually the compilations of three books by Eddie Joseph that is a very good resource for this type of thing. He describes it often in the text as using elephant bells but the premise is still the same; very little modification to the handling. Eddie Joseph was a huge fan of the Indian cup and balls and spends a lot of the book discussing it.
countrymaven
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This move is really an important observation perhaps. You could use it some with a regular c n balls or chop cup. it really mixes up the level of deception!!!
MagicVin
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I’d love to learn a move or 2 from this style C&B routine & work it into my traditional C&B routine.
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countrymaven
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Magic Vin, and others, we will have to be a little creative to adapt this move to the regular c n b's or chop cup. Regular c n b's may require a slight change in the P, and how you hold the cup.

there is also another move often used in the Indian c n b's. The cup is slightly upturned and the p. ball is dropped into the c. the c. is turned over as you place it down. This is similar to the most basic cup and balls move with the cups, but in this case is being done with a p. Sometimes you might think all your fun in a routine is over, but this shows me how new tools can really improve a routine.

I am trying to share this without exposing to a non magician. if someone thinks a spec. could figure this out, have the thread moved.
Al Kazam the Magic Man
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That is the normal Indian cups and balls routine. I've seen a few different Indian videos and they are all very similar. I've also seen a few do the same routines live when I lived in Taiwan and the entertainment park hired a series of magician straight from India to perform there. They were all doing the same routines with the same looking props, with many of the same moves.
On a side note: There is a whole community of Muslim magicians who live in a section of Dehli who have been passing down their routines to their kids and so on. That's why many of them do the same style of false transfer.
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