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And I was talking about the way they "report" it.

I'm wondering, too, if that 25th amendment might need some amending.


In what way are you suggesting?


Well, I need to take a closer look at it, but from a brief overview, it seems to require the Vice President...


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Nope, not buying the "both sides" argument in this case. The events of the past week are solely, exclusively on the President, events which very likely could have been avoided. Luck of course is a factor, but luck favors the prepared, and disfavors the unprepared or reckless.


The past week, this man was under a doctor's care.
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They are the nature vidiographers who do not film the lions eating the Zebra, but rather they help the Zebra escape or help the lion catch the zebra. Either way it is disgusting agenda driven drivel.


Nope, not buying the "both sides" argument in this case. The events of the past week are solely, exclusively on the President, events which very likely could have been avoided. Luck of course is a factor, but luck favors the prepared, and disfavors the unprepared or reckless.

Making a film is not the same as catching an event on film. See Disney about lemmings.

Infotainment delivers customers to advertisers. Don't touch that dial!

Donald Trump taking off his mask made and interesting photo opp. Time will tell.

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Disney moved away from nature films after leading the lemmings.
Donald Trump unmasked will play out next week.
Testing for toxicity, sympathy ploy, win/win for power brokers, courageous acts... that's the framing, bias, narrative brand experience.

In less toxic news Proud Boys was rebranded as LGBTQ inclusive. Qanon may come out of the closet Smile

And the Nobel Prize in chemistry went for genetic modification.
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The lemmings didn't get to storyboard the film. Not the case here. Lights , Camera , Action. That's the purpose of multi-million dollar "Communications" office.

As for Proud Boys, there's a word for that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkwashing_(LGBT)
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Trump unmasked started its own drama that will play out over the next two weeks. White House Survivor?

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The lemmings didn't get to storyboard the film. Not the case here. Lights , Camera , Action. That's the purpose of multi-million dollar "Communications" office.

As for Proud Boys, there's a word for that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkwashing_(LGBT)
"strategies that use minority rights to maintain or enhance structural forms of discrimination." Not in this case. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/o......er-users

The lemmings in that film were an example of fake news. Last night the Nobel prize in chemistry was news. Smile
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Otherwise they are just stenographers to power.
The folks who write copy for API/UPI? At the consumer level it's all about an approved, branded, well paid delivery system for [what you should know] going into news cycle rotation.

Remember radio DJ's getting paid to play certain songs?
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Re Proud Boys: Ah, that was inventive. Thanks for that. After all, didn't they start out as a "men's rights" group?

We're probably off topic here with the Nobel Prize, but I assume your implication is that that which gets rewarded is which we can expect to see much more of in the future, i.e. gene modification. Some days I wake up and, like Mark Lewis, tell myself at least I won't be alive for another fifty years to see the outcome of all this.
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Remember radio DJ's getting paid to play certain songs?


Who paid them? Not the consumers. The producers/distributors. Marketing. What we would now call the "Office of Communications."

But yes it is a little dance together like Genet once told about judge/criminal, priest/sinner, master/slave: one cannot exist without the other. They are part of the same system. And it is a system that benefits the few at the expense of the many.
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Otherwise they are just stenographers to power.
The folks who write copy for API/UPI? At the consumer level it's all about an approved, branded, well paid delivery system for [what you should know] going into news cycle rotation.


I think you're really underestimating the powerful's power to set the agenda of what gets reported. Heard from Julian lately?
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On topic - insert a COVID-19 immune response.

Perhaps the ivory tower/ivy league audience would enjoy Genet's Balcony staged suggesting NYC and Epstein's townhouse.

About dyads; though one cannot exist without the other, each success of the former imposes much upon many of the latter.

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When our Prime Mister had the virus, he was housed in Downing Street and out in the back garden and once a week out the front on the door step applauding the NHS but he ended up in hospital when got worse. He was out of action for some weeks. Most people with it are told to self-isolate at home as opposed to go to hospital and some of these are really ill. I know one, a young lady, who looked like a skeleton, who they said was well enough to stay at home. I don’t know how she managed to survive but she did. Others have had it and shown no symptoms at all. As president, he ought to set a good example but what is that, when we have Ed saying he should be in hospital and his doctors telling him that he should not and so.


I'm sorry, did the doctors tell him he should not be in the hospital, or did he just decide to leave? Further, we are now hearing that he's chafing at being in his "isolation office" set up for him in the residence area, and wants to be in the Oval Office! That, plus openly pulling off his mask as he walked back into the White House tells me that this man is NOT taking this seriously, and is acting like a big vector!
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Where did you hear all your information? From the media outlet that hates him fun day one?

You have no idea if he is taking it seriously or not. You just want to fit it into your worldview that he isn't.

So just admit it you don't like him and this is another way for you to rationalize that feeling. Nothing wrong with that and certainly there is plenty to dislike and disagree with. But at least be honest about it.
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I wonder why no one, be it his doctor, White House staff or a member of his entourage etc., "knows" or rather will say when DT last tested negative, before his positive result?

Is there any logical reason for this?
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Certainly he tested negative for the debate. Did anyone have to really say that?
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Certainly he tested negative for the debate. Did anyone have to really say that?


Yes, sadly, because it appears that the answer to that question is not clear at all. Evidently he arrived late to the debate and he was not tested. Christie who was prepping him for the debate is now in the hospital. The timeline is murky and nothing done to clear it up.

And he has refused to say when he last tested negative as of yesterday morning. One of his flacks actually tried to justify the silence on "privacy grounds." Uh, no. It has to do with people having the right to know if the person they might be coming in contact with is infected when going out into the public arena.
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Yea no. Privacy is privacy. Like it or not. That is one issue about the HIPPA laws now and masks and such. You don't throw privacy away in the name of "safety ". That is bull because they will NEVER relinquish that power and they prove it time and time again. So don't just flood over that because your agenda is the exact opposite of small government.

As for refusing to say when he was tested who can blame him? No matter WHAT he says haters will claim he is the worst person in history. Why bother?

The timeline may be murky to you and to those trying to bash him for ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. I would go out on a limb and say he is possibly the most tested person around. And still he got infected living in an effective bubble.

I'm not defending a single thing he says or does. But really let's get past the while bash him no matter what/ defend him no matter what scenario just for a bit.

Oh and by the way is is POSSIBLE to show up for the debate, test negative, and then have it show up later. It would depend upon where the disease was n incubating. But why let a fact get in the way of political hatred?
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As for refusing to say when he was tested who can blame him?

Anyone who had to come in contact with him, or his associates. I have a feeling Chris Christie is not thrilled with him right now.

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Oh and by the way it is POSSIBLE to show up for the debate, test negative, and then have it show up later.

Yes it's possible. That's not what happened though.

As for privacy concerns, please let's not insult our intelligence. This was not some principled stand not to give out his test results. The doctors talked about many other things concerning his medical condition, so privacy was not an issue--only on this one issue which would have highlighted his reckless irresponsibility.


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I often don't agree with you, but usually you have a worthwhile argument. This time you got nothing but blind cheerleading.

And politics has nothing to do with it. I find his opponent's politics equally reprehensible. Maybe more so in some ways. But only one put many others in danger because of reckless, selfish irresponsibility.
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Do you REALLY think the Christie people don't have the answers you're demanding as if you somehow are entitled? Hate has you blind.

And how is it you think you can say "that's not what hairbrush"? Again you're sphere of information is painfully small but you make grand pronouncements based on your hatred alone and biased reports. Talk about my cheerleading and you have nothing but blind hatred. And I'm not cheering him at all. Just being factual and honest. Sorry that throw a wrench into stuff.

What exactly is his reckless and selfish irresponsibility?
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