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cardbiker Inner circle 1484 Posts |
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On Nov 14, 2020, Ross W wrote: 👍 nice one |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
I am glad as per the words in the demo it works every sigle time Gaz 😂
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Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts |
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On Nov 14, 2020, cardbiker wrote: This is really a very good trick. No gimmicks, no memory work, setup of deck (about 5 minutes), cleanup if you fill it necessary literally seconds, no palming or ditching. In fact, I use the deck for other tricks. I do agree he could shave half the time eliminating the repeats. Best Steve
"The New York Papers," Mark Twain once said,"have long known that no large question is ever really settled until I have been consulted; it is the way they feel about it, and they show it by always sending to me when they get uneasy. "
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Ross W Inner circle UK 1779 Posts |
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On Nov 14, 2020, Gaz Lawrence wrote: It does, though! |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
I know I was just joking how it amazes me that they record something and then have the titles across the screen with the spellings wrong Gaz 😊
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Pros: the effect plays out as described, apart from maybe the "clean ends", which was a disappointment. So if you like what you see, you'll like it.
Cons: It uses two decks. Two decks should get you immediately thrown out of the ACAAN club. You ask them to multiply the card by two for no reason whatsoever, which to my mind leads directly to a solution. Goodness knows how he claims to have fooled magicians with this. You deal the cards face down and cannot show them at the end. It's one of those effects most of us think up after reading a bit of Barrie Richardson and then dismiss as being a bit rubbish. |
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Gavin.Wong New user 83 Posts |
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On Nov 14, 2020, Martin Pulman wrote: You can actually perform this trick with only one deck. Even over Zoom with just the spectator thinking of a card. I explain this in my review video here:
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Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts |
Actually the one deck is stronger. Either way it plays well.
Best Steve
"The New York Papers," Mark Twain once said,"have long known that no large question is ever really settled until I have been consulted; it is the way they feel about it, and they show it by always sending to me when they get uneasy. "
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Nov 14, 2020, Gavin.Wong wrote: Obviously you could just get them to think of a card but that makes the effect even worse. If they are allowed such freedom of choice in their mind to think of a card why not allow them equal freedom of choice to think of a position? Once you start thinking of numbers and multiplying by two to get another number we're back in the world of those playground maths tricks kids used to do at school. |
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1855 Posts |
Above all, it is the presentation that matters. An effect could have no bit of routining that makes sense but if the presentation is excellent enough then you have a winner and is ultimately what matters. The rest is "magician thinking".
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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Gavin.Wong New user 83 Posts |
I think the biggest positive about this trick is that it's a super easy ACAAN type effect. Most ACAAN tricks require memorizing a stack or difficult sleight of hand. This is basically self working so great for beginners looking to do a ACAAN effect.
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Nov 14, 2020, EZrhythm wrote: Can you give us some examples of Mentalism effects where not one bit of routining makes sense but the presentation makes it a winner? |
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Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts |
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On Nov 14, 2020, Martin Pulman wrote: Martin, 2020 has been a year of useless fighting. It appears you want to continue such nonsense. I do mentalism as well and don't feel it necessary to defend or argue for something that has no end. I could site you hundreds of examples that you request but it only creates more arguments. If you don't like the trick, assuming you bought it, don't perform it. All this yeah yeah gets old. Best Steve
"The New York Papers," Mark Twain once said,"have long known that no large question is ever really settled until I have been consulted; it is the way they feel about it, and they show it by always sending to me when they get uneasy. "
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no2ss Inner circle California 1027 Posts |
I get that this is easy, but it seems like there are already some fairly easy ACAANs that are also impromptu with borrowed decks, so you don't even have to dedicate a deck to it. And they're actually ACAANs rather than whatever this is. Things like R. Paul Wilson's YAMFACAAN or Josh Janousky's Yes We CAAN both are impromptu, actual ACAANs with a borrowed deck, and both are crazy simple. While you could say they involve "sleights" they're barely even sleights. I'd almost argue there's no real sleight in YAMFACAAN, it's just so cleverly setup that everyone misses what you're doing (I've done it a ton and no one has ever spotted anything), or Janousky's effect (which comes on a download with two other pretty good impromptu ACAANs) has the kind of sleight that if you can't do it, then you probably shouldn't be doing any magic at all. I don't see how this improves on either of these (or many other ACAANs I've seen).
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Nov 14, 2020, Steven Conner wrote: Steve, I don't think you've got the hang of Latest and Greatest. It's for people to offer their views on magic and Mentalism effects -good or bad. It has nothing to do with the events of 2020. If you're unable to stand people having a negative opinion of an effect you like, or disagreeing on the best approach to Mentalism, I'd respectfully say you're in the wrong place. I've paid for this item so you'll just have to suffer me using the forum the way it is intended, by giving my opinion on it. I'm happy for you to proclaim my opinion to be nonsense. I'm not so thin skinned that my personal worth and feelings about the state of the world rest on a card effect. I've actually been very polite about this effect as it is, in my opinion, dreadful as an ACAAN. "Choose a card from a deck. Take the card you've chosen and double the number of the card by two and I'll deal these cards to that new number from another deck face down and when I've finished dealing I won't even show you the card before or after, far less the rest of the deck". I honestly thought it was a spoof at first. Mentalism routines shouldn't be full of random, illogical actions -unless randomness and illogicality are themes of the routine. Personally, I'd recommend anyone interested in this plot to look elsewhere. Read the Berglas book, study Asi Wind. If you're willing to compromise in a certain direction look at X-Act.You'll find beautifully motivated and routined effects and, in the case of Berglas, a masterclass in jazzing with cards. |
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Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts |
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On Nov 15, 2020, Martin Pulman wrote: Ok Martin, I can stand all the opinions of the Café, it's the arguing and backbiting that bothers me. What works for one may not work for another but that doesn't constitute an automatic slam because it's only your opinion. While you don't know me or Visa versa, I have made my living and paying my Bill's performing for 40 years, so I'm not a novice. I've read Berglas several times and been using Asi routine since it came out. This is still not a bad trick. It won't replace what I'm doing but will and have used it. EZrhythm offered his opinion and then you offer a challenge like there has to be some justification. Just offer opinions without getting worked up over it. Best Steve
"The New York Papers," Mark Twain once said,"have long known that no large question is ever really settled until I have been consulted; it is the way they feel about it, and they show it by always sending to me when they get uneasy. "
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Steve,
The only person getting worked up here is you. Stick to reviewing the effects and drop trying to review other people's characters and we'll all be fine. You think this is a good effect; I think it's dreadful. That's where it begins and ends. Stay safe, Martin |
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Rizzo Inner circle East Coast 3349 Posts |
Yawn
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Rizzo Inner circle East Coast 3349 Posts |
On now back to our scheduled programming....
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Platt Inner circle New York 2015 Posts |
I don't have any dog in this fight. The effect and procedure certainly looks dreadful to me too, Martin. Given that your complaints (and mine too) were evident in the demo video, out of curiosity, why did you purchase it?
[/quote] Steve, I don't think you've got the hang of Latest and Greatest. It's for people to offer their views on magic and Mentalism effects -good or bad. It has nothing to do with the events of 2020. If you're unable to stand people having a negative opinion of an effect you like, or disagreeing on the best approach to Mentalism, I'd respectfully say you're in the wrong place. I've paid for this item so you'll just have to suffer me using the forum the way it is intended, by giving my opinion on it. I'm happy for you to proclaim my opinion to be nonsense. I'm not so thin skinned that my personal worth and feelings about the state of the world rest on a card effect. I've actually been very polite about this effect as it is, in my opinion, dreadful as an ACAAN. "Choose a card from a deck. Take the card you've chosen and double the number of the card by two and I'll deal these cards to that new number from another deck face down and when I've finished dealing I won't even show you the card before or after, far less the rest of the deck". I honestly thought it was a spoof at first. Mentalism routines shouldn't be full of random, illogical actions -unless randomness and illogicality are themes of the routine. Personally, I'd recommend anyone interested in this plot to look elsewhere. Read the Berglas book, study Asi Wind. If you're willing to compromise in a certain direction look at X-Act.You'll find beautifully motivated and routined effects and, in the case of Berglas, a masterclass in jazzing with cards. [/quote]
Sugar Rush is here! Freakishly visual magic. http://www.plattmagic.com
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