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Hori Koki New user Japan! Fukuoka 6 Posts |
I am a Japanese performer.
Like many other performers, I was wondering if I could still do my show online. But that would devalue the show and the performers, and it would be unstable. The following issues and more. -The public is not used to ZOOM in large groups (especially the Japanese are shy Lol) -The price of tickets for the show -Limited performance and lack of reality and interaction A good idea I thought of was one-on-one mentalism hypnosis sessions. This would solve a few problems and make the content more confidential and mysterious. I don't think this would be successful in normal magic. Mentalism I think it's good because it's hypnosis. A routine or idea that looks good, etc. I'd love to hear what you guys think! |
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9981 Posts |
Yes, dyadic performances can be very effective and powerful as you have a degree of control and "engagement" not possible with a group.
I did this with business owners more than 20,000 times in 80-90's Both conjuring and mental based effects can work - I would avoid combining hypnosis wit conjuring, however. Different premise and expectations. Do not confuse. That is, anything you wish, but not in combination with demonstrations of impossible or improbable. It is a matter of framing and expectations. So, mentalism leading to hypnosis might work. I disagree that hypnosis is mentalism, but just my take. ( it is not paranormal) BUT - charging for this may be a problem. I never did and don't see how that can be done without putting an obligation or shadow on the presentation. I did single demonstrations as part of an evaluation meeting. "Performing" a mini-show would be difficult to orchestrate for one person. Who would you be presenting yourself as being? An entertainer, therapist, guru? For Japanese culture I am not sure One possibility is to have a non-profit to which folks can make donations after being astounded (to help others less fortunate) Just thoughts - may not have helped
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10585 Posts |
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On Nov 18, 2020, Hori Koki wrote: What? You'll have to explain this one to us. How is mentalism hypnosis? Most mentalists know nothing about hypnosis. |
Hori Koki New user Japan! Fukuoka 6 Posts |
>>What? You'll have to explain this one to us. How is mentalism hypnosis? Most mentalists know nothing about hypnosis.
Thank you for your opinion. Certainly. This may require an explanation. This involves a hypnotic wind trick... Muscle rigidity, etc. The effect in a one-on-one environment does not diminish in a one-to-one environment and is usually not a magic effect related to mentalism |
Hori Koki New user Japan! Fukuoka 6 Posts |
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On Nov 19, 2020, funsway wrote: Thanks for the thoughts. A one-on-one "mind-blowing" experience I was thinking of an effect that would be easy for the audience to feel even remotely on this theme. It seems to me that this could incorporate "hypnosis" as a kind of mind-altering performance. Even a trick like hypnosis. What looks like an ordinary magic trick in this environment is going to be less effective. But I don't want to include the essence of a Q.A performance or divination. (This may be to some people's liking...) The best thing to do would be to let the audience guess directly what's going on in their heads. "Prediction... Prediction" seems to work remotely, but If you don't have a clean production, it will be suspicious and less effective. |
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9981 Posts |
I guess I missed the part where you want the performance to be online, Skype, Zoom, whatever.
My thoughts run to doing live, but at a distance one-on-one. Everything done online is (for me) a diluted version of the real thing - a limited view of the world through a paper towel tube. This may be necessary because of COVID and future desire of folks to stay home for many reason, but the best you can achieve is "magical" rather than "must be magic" and "weird mental stuff" rather than a demonstration of "paranormal." So, the question isa what will entertain and mystify a remote viewer - and sustain interest vs the other Zoomers crying for attention? Limiting oneself to mentalism by any definition may never work since it will lack the group dynamics of a live performance that often makes it work. My performances of all types have always allowed for modifications "on the fly" based on empathic "feel" for the audience. Not possible on the Internet. This only means that you options are extremely limited. Making money doing this is even more doubtful. Yet, in a world crying "entertain me" because of a lack of being able to entertain themselves, anything unique may sell for a while. Instead of calling a psychic hotline they call you for 10 minutes of "mental challenge and mystery diversion." (world wide)
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4187 Posts |
One on one hypnosis for therapeutic purposes makes sense to me but one on one hypnosis for entertainment makes no sense to me at all.
Mark |
mindmagic Inner circle London 1740 Posts |
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On Nov 20, 2020, Mark_Chandaue wrote: It's not entirely clear, but it sounds like he's referring to suggestibility tests or "waking hypnosis". These certainly work one-on-one and could be used virtually. Trying to put someone into trance online can be done but it's not a good idea unless you're really experienced (and even then I wouldn't do it). It also wouldn't be entertaining (as Mark says). Barry |
Joe Roberts Special user 860 Posts |
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On Nov 19, 2020, funsway wrote: You performed for three business owners a day, every day, for two decades? |
barryj New user 1 Post |
After 35 years of being a full-time stage hypnotist I can tell you that mentalism and hypnosis are different. I delved into the Mentalism and actually did a few stand-alone shows. Having said that it would be fairly easy to intertwine them together and maybe that is why people see them as similar.
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9981 Posts |
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On Nov 24, 2020, Joe Roberts wrote: no, 6-10 owners, five days a week for about 22 years. The total is actually closer to 40,000 presentations, but here I am not counting those where I used a demonstration of the impossible in an introduction or for scheduling meeting - only those during a 1-2 hr evaluation meeting. Do not think "effect" as a complete magic presentation. Each was part of an interrogative/exploratory meeting in which I "did something impossible" to challenge their thinking. It was not known that I was magician or that I was about to perform something "inexplicable," therefore not "performance magic" in an entertaining sense. It can only work in a dyadic setting, the reason I posted it. Must be live also.
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