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Hi ‘Dirtyfoucault’

I can assure you that any discrepancy has happened because people have put unrealistic expectations on some part of this. What is in the ad copy and trailer is all 100% truth.

Like I have said numerous times - there is of course something you have to do here to gain insight. (It’s called CTRL-C!) but that something can be and should be protected.

The methods and sequence is fully justified and really does leave their drawing, I aside an envelope that you never have to touch, in their pocket.

This is not just choreography, it uses language, timing, justification, sequence, implication, emphasis and a whole host of other aspects.

I’m more than happy to jump on Zoom with you as I can see we’re north in the UK.

Chris
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On May 2, 2022, nique wrote:
Alright guys; I’ve done my best. Not sure what I’ve added to the mix and I might be just repeating everything that has already been said, but for what it’s worth… here you go!

~ Nique




Thank you, Nique very informative review and I appreciate your thoughts on performance choreography and handling condition ideas.
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I have just been sent this from Marc Salem, who was contacted by Joshua Kane to talk about CTRL-C (Josh is reviewing it for MUM magazine in a coming issue) and they got talking about this thread here and then Marc emailed me asking me to post this on his behalf…so here it is:

“TO A REAL PERFORMER THIS IS WORTH TWICE THE ASKING PRICE. IT DOES WHAT IT SAYS. TO DECONSTRUCT ALL THE TEXTS IS NOT ONLY WRONG, BUT IS NOT HOW MENTALISM WORKS. YOU READ THEIR MIND IN A CLEAN, VIRTUALLY HANDS OFF METHOD. I HAVE NO FINANCIAL END OF THIS ITEM, BUT CHRIS MADE WHAT WAS ONLY A CLEVER THOUGHT , INTO AN UNFATHOMABLE MIRACLE AND - DEPENDING ON THE MENTALIST - BRILLIANT ENTERTAINMENT.” Marc Salem, New York City.
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Even though I'm a real performer, and I love Marc, my impressions remain the same. As do the reviewers on Penguin I suspect. Good, and bad. Everyone’s mileage varies, as it should be.
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Can this be done over the internet like zoom?
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On Jun 8, 2022, RealityTwisterSFX wrote:
Can this be done over the internet like zoom?


Yes and no.

You could have them draw, seal the drawing into an envelope with you out the room at distance and then have that very drawing and envelope go into their pocket..

Then wait till they are home, whereever that be and then call you on Zoom, Facetime, Skype..

But can you do the whole process over Zoom - no.

For that you’d be better suited to XIDD (a totally separate approach of mine).

Chris
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Understanding that there *is* a script, what is the total time required to perform the effect? (Not like we often hear about "stretching" an effect "to get" 5 or 6 minutes but the actual minimal time required)?
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Understanding that there *is* a script, what is the total time required to perform the effect? (Not like we often hear about "stretching" an effect "to get" 5 or 6 minutes but the actual minimal time required)?


Honestly, the script isn’t necessary, though of course it does add layers.

To answer you you can perform this in 1 minute or over the course of hours.

Christopher
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Thank you, Chris!
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If this has already been asked, please let me know. In the video at link below, performer says, "by the time she is done drawing, I'll know exactly what she has drawn."

Just want to confirm the accuracy of that; performer knows drawing at the moment it's finished?

https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/17099


That quote is near beginning of video.
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If this has already been asked, please let me know. In the video at link below, performer says, "by the time she is done drawing, I'll know exactly what she has drawn."

Just want to confirm the accuracy of that; performer knows drawing at the moment it's finished?

https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/17099


That quote is near beginning of video.


Please note that the phrase:
"by the time she is done drawing" is not the same as your interpretation "at the very moment it's finished".
"by the time she is done drawing" means only after she is finished, but not how long after.

So I will say that this is a bit misleading double talk.

But it is still a great trick...
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I beg to differ on the wording. He doesn't say "after she's done drawing" he says "by the time she is done drawing."

To me "by the time" and "after" have distinctly different meanings.




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On Jun 12, 2022, jimtron wrote:
If this has already been asked, please let me know. In the video at link below, performer says, "by the time she is done drawing, I'll know exactly what she has drawn."

Just want to confirm the accuracy of that; performer knows drawing at the moment it's finished?

https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/17099


That quote is near beginning of video.


Please note that the phrase:
"by the time she is done drawing" is not the same as your interpretation "at the very moment it's finished".
"by the time she is done drawing" means only after she is finished, but not how long after.

So I will say that this is a bit misleading double talk.

But it is still a great trick...
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I beg to differ on the wording. He doesn't say "after she's done drawing" he says "by the time she is done drawing."

To me "by the time" and "after" have distinctly different meanings.


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Yes, and that is what it really means in reality, that it takes a little longer, with some extra, not mentioned, wording and handling, before he knows what is written.

That's the difference!

And all this is the clever scripting and handling that Chris have incorporated in this effect. But it does not mean that the ad should be misleading.

It is a narrow edge to walk, discussing these things without revealing too much. Therefore this is my last saying in this matter.
Sorry if I was unclear, and you misunderstood.

Maybe it is because English is not my first language.
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Did anyone create a facebook group for this yet?

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On Jun 12, 2022, espmagic wrote:
Understanding that there *is* a script, what is the total time required to perform the effect? (Not like we often hear about "stretching" an effect "to get" 5 or 6 minutes but the actual minimal time required)?

Did you get me DM?
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Hi Guys,

So yes, what Nick is saying there is true. Those who have it know that you can simply change calibration to them completing the drawing by doing something extra.

Whatever wording you do or do not use, that's how it feels to the spectator and audience.

They draw, put it in their pocket and you know.

That’s how this is remembered and what else matters?

Christopher
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