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magicinsight Inner circle 4292 Posts |
I just ordered the "Complete" package. The price was extremely reasonable especially considering what many charge for mentalism products nowadays. I look forward in receiving both the digital and hard copies of your book.
Michael
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
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mitch731 New user 51 Posts |
Ordered, so excited about this!!!
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JamieD Inner circle London 1798 Posts |
I jumped as soon as I saw the purchase email! I cannot wait to give this the time it deserves to perfect!
Jamie Daws
TORCE - VMRS - DARK SERIES
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no2ss Inner circle California 1027 Posts |
Ordered as well! Would have done it sooner if my email hadn't filtered the announcement email to spam. Looking forward to this.
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DrewBstoss Special user SLC, Utah 581 Posts |
Thank you one and all for your support!
I'm about two-thirds of the way through the orders that have come in today. Each order takes around 10 minutes to manually mark the file, upload it the DRM software (which has multiple steps of its own), email the link(s) and then create a new user for the web app... It's tedious to say the least haha! I'll do my best to finish up the remaining ones tomorrow I'm TRULY excited that this is now out there! Best wishes, Drew
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scott0819 Inner circle Toronto, Ont. 1040 Posts |
Initial thoughts:
Anyone not familiar with Thaddius Barker's work will be utterly floored by this. Those that are will still be left scratching their heads and then once learned, amazed by the cunning ploys used here to both simplify the process for the performer while also increasing the feeling of impossibility for the participant. Back to reading now... |
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no2ss Inner circle California 1027 Posts |
Just got the digital version, watched the video of the full routine, and read the details of the core routine.
I recognize that what I'm about to say might sound negative, but please hear me out. I love everything that Drew has put out, and think this will be super useful and will fry people... but I will admit that my *initial* reaction was slight disappointment. On watching the video it seemed blatantly obvious how this worked (and I'm *not* familiar with Thaddius Barker's work). It wasn't so obvious that I could turn around and do it -- and I knew that there were all sorts of nuances and details to understand -- all of which Drew provides (and much, much more). But the core routine and all of the layered methods seem like things most mentalists should already be familiar with. Indeed, reading the 1st chapter of the book showed that my assumptions from the video on how it's done were exactly correct. Now, that's taking care of my immediate reaction upon seeing the video. What I will say is that *this is still amazing*. Indeed, it's more or less the same reason that Drew's first book remains at the top of my list of best mentalism books ever -- because it takes a variety of methods, and layers them cleverly, and makes them into something so much better. I think it would be wrong to consider the basic routine a magician/mentalist fooler, but it does show a way to make a lot of ideas that are often misused, and to make them much better. And I can't wait to get into the rest of the book, because I'm positive that the more advanced versions that Drew will discuss *will* include even more fooling ideas. I also think that (even from the little I've read so far) is likely to inspire a bunch of different ideas. I immediately started thinking about ways to combine this with the two other recent propless methods that I thought have a lot of value: Trojan Horse & Voiceless, and I think by mixing and matching the ideas from all three concepts, something even more impressive can come out the other end. (Phiden's Phasma concept could be useful here as well) So, I'm very happy with my purchase so far, and I've only just started digging in (and haven't signed up for the FB group yet). But I do want to acknowledge my *initial* reaction in case others have the same upon seeing the full performance. While it *will* absolutely astound many people, those with some experience in mentalism should be able to work out at least the key aspects of what's happening. But don't let that take away from the potential here, I'm sure, given Drew's usual thoroughness, he explores in the rest of the book. Looking forward to reading the rest, checking out the FB group, and thinking of ways to do more with this. |
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DrewBstoss Special user SLC, Utah 581 Posts |
No2ss - Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I am eager to hear what you think as you continue through the PDF. Spoiler alert - some of my favorite applications are reserved for the physical book, so you have some fun surprises (I hope!) yet to come.
I never set out to fool other magicians/mentalists with this (although it definitely has). I can assure you though, this works beautifully for normal audiences Best wishes, Drew
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MDantes Inner circle New Orleans 1435 Posts |
Drew’s work on this propless pin divination is phenomenal.
He’s tested it and uses it in real world/virtual world shows. It works in person/over the radio/phone/zoom/FT. The work he’s put into helping buyers learn the techniques, subtleties and script will impress you and is geared toward helping you build a strong foundation for this incredible effect. It’s plausible and relatable and can help solidify your mentalism character. Regardless of the package you get, Drew is delivering a strong piece of powerful mentalism and everything you need to learn it, feel 100% confident with, and use it. For as much as I’d suggest that Drew keep sales of this limited to only a few people, do yourself a favor and get it. The more performers that get this, the better. I’m looking forward to the physical book, Drew! Congratulations on this release. You must be very happy about it:)
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Argon Regular user Germany 159 Posts |
Hi all,
I though I will chime in here and offer my humble opinion. For disclaimer I do not personally know Drew and I bought this book as the all in set because I like printed books, paid full price and even the 25 $us shipping which by the way is way too much, but not really Drews fault I guess ;-). You will forgive me for skipping the hyperbole as this will go straight into my working repertoire and such and I will concentrate on my personal perception. So what do you get for 100 $us: - A link to the copyrighted download - Some online learning tools - a printed book - A facebook group The copyrighted download I guess is necessary in todays world of piracy but I am not a fan of it. It has to load, if you read some time it reloads and starts back at page 1... quiet frankly it a bother. The book itself is well written and has a very good structure that lets you learn it easily. It also has a setup that lets you practice the method. In both of these aspects it is a bit like Phedon Bileks Proteus, which by the way is also great. For those that are afraid that 227 page is a lot to read, be assured that you will only have to read half. The reason is that the book basically handles two variants that normally exclude themselves if that makes sense. ;-). Also the pages are not normal size but smaller. The online tools are not really sexy in the interface and usage but very well thought out and rather practical. This is areal plus when learning and understanding the method. Now the method is far from rocket science but as with all things practice make perfect and it is a world of difference if you need 2 or 3 seconds more to proceed or not. The book, well has not arrived yet. ;-) I have joined the facebook group but have yet to contribute or find the time to read. Now to the core: I bought this project blind because I have AOTM and expected something along these lines and was not disappointed. The method is not earth shattering and not originally from Drew. For me it is perfect example of our mentalism community. So many artists try so hard to come up with something new and the release it into the world fast and thereby have not really fully explored possibilities. I guess it in the nature modern mentalism. Drew has taken an interesting method and in a labor of love produced a comprehensive masterpiece. I am not referring to a multitude variants and options but rather a thoroughness of the mind when exploring the affect on the spectator. Usually when I read a mentalism book have thought popping into my mind, what happens if, could you not do that. Drew has predicted my thoughts and answered them in full. Either by his comments or by the contribution of others chipping in. I do not know him, but if I had to guess he was possessed and driven to get all he could out of this one method. Bottom line: What you have here is very finely crafted effect that has been polished until it is a fine and mature product. It is just an very nice example that we do not need more methods but rather better crafted ones. The result is just so much more satisfying and a pure joy to perform. As I said before you can feel that Drew have invested an extraordinary amount of time and thinking it getting this done. Concluding I know that there are a lot of people dependent on the income of their releases but I wish all artist would craft in this quality and I know some that do. But for me this the standard I would expect from a master craftsman. So I have written a lot more than I intended but it is just my humble opinion for you to read or discard. Regardless to all: Take care, stay safe and try to have some fun! So quoting Voltaire: "I have decided to be happy because it's good for my health" Stefan PS: Rick Maue had great things to say on creation in mindvention 2021 called open doors! I almost missed it but it was one of my highlights! Fits very much in with crafting magic ;-) |
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DrewBstoss Special user SLC, Utah 581 Posts |
Stefan,
Thank you, sincerely, for taking the time to share your opinion of this project! Describing me as “possessed and driven to get all [I] could out of this one method” is the best cold reading I’ve ever received! You nailed it on the head! I recognized the latent potential of the idea this is based off of but wanted to explore EVERYTHING I could to push it further. Best wishes, Drew P.S. I agree about the nutty costs of international shipping! I also wish it wasn’t SO expensive. I will make this promise though, if I am able to find a more cost effective shipping option for a particular order I will refund the difference. And if shipping is more expensive than the flat $25 than I’ll eat the difference I’m genuinely trying to do right by everyone who supports my work!
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Cluckdini New user This stunt chicken telekinetically typed 75 Posts |
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On Jan 26, 2021, Argon wrote: There fortunately appears to be a workaround (at least it works for me with Chrome on Windows 10). There appears to be a short time limit where you can download new pages and it only downloads ~10 pages at a time. When I hit page 11, I had to reload everything again like Argon mentioned, which was annoying. However, I then tried scrolling slowly through the entire book letting every page load (took about 3 minutes). I then read slowly all evening to page 53 last night and this evening the entire book is still up and I verified I could look at every page still. I am using Chrome on Windows 10, in case it matters. May be different for a phone browser. Hope it helps. |
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DrewBstoss Special user SLC, Utah 581 Posts |
Clucknini - I appreciate you sharing your finding! If you're part of the FB group it would be great for you to share that information there.
I know the DRM software isn't as ideal as a normal PDF file... but it's the only way that I felt comfortable making the content available in digital format. Hopefully it's an adequate solution until the book is in your (and everyone else's) hands Best wishes, Drew
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Winnes Elite user 473 Posts |
I've now had a couple of days to play around with this, and can confirm it truly is as great as the previous posters have stated. I am a big fan of the routine and method that this builds off of, but this really does both simplify it and make the processes involved not only seem appropriate, but also actually engaging and interesting. The actual "method" is incredibly simple and one pass of the instructions will give you all you need (once it 'clicks' it is incredibly logical), but the scripting is the real detail that will take a bit longer to nail down (but, again, incredibly simple and logical - especially when compared to other propless methods).
To be fair, it shouldn't be a surprise coming from Drew, but this is excellent and anyone interested in a propless pin divination doesn't need to look anywhere else. |
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DrewBstoss Special user SLC, Utah 581 Posts |
Thanks Winnes! Sometimes the usernames on the Café throw me off If you wanted to message me directly I'd love to discover the man behind the "Winnes" haha.
I'm happy that you confirmed how logical the method underpinning ELEMENTARY really is. Like you said, once it clicks - IT CLICKS! Lately, I've been posting like a mad-man on the FB group - sharing additional ideas, variants and giving some early peeks at the bonus content in the physical book. If anyone has ordered the "Complete" package and not yet checked out the group, what are you waiting for?! Come one in, the water is fine Best wishes, Drew
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RedDevil Inner circle Deep South 1315 Posts |
Okay, seriously. I haven't spoken to Drew in years (work has kept me away from Magic/Mentalism), and I kept seeing this thread and wanting to contact him, but didn't.
I will tell the truth and say that I am pretty tired of PIN code things, and I have seen enough propless mentalism (and published some myself) to learn that it is exceptionally difficult to develop a routine that doesn't feel like 20 questions or is just too transparent for use in the real world. Drew has an excellent reputation, but I want to tell you that I was still a tad skeptical that this new one was going to pass the test. But I contacted him anyway because I couldn't resist. I was hoping I would see something that would surprise me. Guys, I don't know how to say this any more seriously: This passes the ***ed test! Accuse me of hype all you want. I stand behind every word I am writing. I will say it this way. If you're like me, we all are privately hoping that we will see something that makes us smile again when we see something new, and we are rarely these days given this gift. Too often disappointed. But yesterday, I got it. My faith in propless mentalism was revived when I saw Drew perform Elementary. Honestly, and I don't mean this in any pejorative way, but Drew takes what Fraser Parker has been trying to accomplish for years with his foundational grunt work and pioneering on scripting (for which he and Peter Turner and others should be applauded)...and actually reaches the top of the mountain. It's almost like this is what the propless PIN code routine has always tried to be, but never got there. Like any propless routine, it has its compromises (because we can't really read minds and have to cheat somewhere), and you will see hints of how Drew has woven the work of pioneers before him into a far superior piece of propless cloth. With that said, it hits about as much of the sweetspot of simplicity, apparent freedom/fairness, opaqueness (meaning, it is not obvious to the spectator), and reliability as a propless PIN code routine can get. I promise you, he has cracked the *** code. The only way to do this fairer is to have them write it down and p##k it. The word "brilliant" almost has no meaning anymore on Café reviews, but there is an element he embeds in this effect that is so ***ed pretty, sneaky, and effective, that I slammed the table with my hand when I realized what I had been tricked into doing without knowing it (and never remembered until he told me later). It was joyful. And then, the bonus stuff that comes with it! You will get thinking and opportunities you didn't have before that you will be most proud to treasure in your tool chest. Jeez...I cannot imagine someone not being happy with this product considering all the junk that is marketed these days in comparison to this. Anyways, I guess you could say that I like this pretty ***ed a lot.
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DrewBstoss Special user SLC, Utah 581 Posts |
RedDevil - It was a joy catching up with you after so many years (it’s nuts how fast the pages of the calendar can turn)! I’m humbled by your enthusiastic response to this project!
Best wishes, Drew
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Willie mcgregor New user 80 Posts |
I have read every post and page looks like I will need to get this.i will get on it in the morning. Just like Christmas.
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Nathan Alexander Inner circle 2021 Posts |
You won't regret it. People have been using it and loving it.
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252life Inner circle Ninth Circle, Hades 3243 Posts |
Seriously something you’ll never regret.
Look for all the world like you're counting the brain cells in his cranium.
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