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Does anyone use this pass? It is briefly described on prime time Carey dvd under the Mysterious Ambition effect, it does look very deceptive I must admit but wondered if anyone uses it currently and whether it is workable
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On Jan 1, 2021, Daren wrote:
Does anyone use this pass? It is briefly described on prime time Carey dvd under the Mysterious Ambition effect, it does look very deceptive I must admit but wondered if anyone uses it currently and whether it is workable


Are you talking about the action of performing a pass while making it appear as though you simply lifted up half the deck? If so, then yes, and yes.
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I don’t know the Tucker pass but it seems quite similar to the false cut pass.
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It's the Bluff Pass. The 'sleight' is mainly choreography as you've got to watch your angles. And yes, it's very deceptive.
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It's the Bluff Pass. The 'sleight' is mainly choreography as you've got to watch your angles. And yes, it's very deceptive.

The Tommy Tucker pass I think isn’t the bluff pass, I understand the bluff pass is one card lifted as the selection is replaced, Tommy Tucker is card is truly placed into middle and then in the action of showing random cards above the card is passed to the top
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I've used it now and then - very casual and deceptive but (IMHO) is best used scarcely as otherwise it may attract undue attention. From memory, I thought that Gregory Wilson has something simillar (backstage or flip flop?), but can't check at the moment as I'm lacking a DVD player.
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It's the Bluff Pass. The 'sleight' is mainly choreography as you've got to watch your angles. And yes, it's very deceptive.

The Tommy Tucker pass I think isn’t the bluff pass, I understand the bluff pass is one card lifted as the selection is replaced, Tommy Tucker is card is truly placed into middle and then in the action of showing random cards above the card is passed to the top


It's possible that Tucker has more than one handling or a different Pass named after him, but from Conjuring archive and Magicpedia, The Bluff Pass is also Tomy Tucker's: https://www.conjuringcredits.com/doku.ph......uff_pass

From what you're describing though, it seems to be a different Pass.
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In Giobbi’s Secret Agenda, the footnote for this pass is below:

“The inspirational source is a sleight Victor Farelli titled ‘The Horace Goldin Pass’. You can find it in Hugard’s Magic Monthly, Volume XII, Number 12, May 1955, P. 285. There Farelli relates how Goldin fooled him again and again...Farelli further relates that the sleight was not original with Goldin, but had been described under the title ‘Slicker Sleight’ in the May 1930 issue of The Sphinx (Vol. XXIX, No. 3, p. 126) by Charles A. Leedy. I wouldn’t be surprised, as so often happens, if an even earlier reference eventually turns up.”


It is definitely effective as long as the gesture of the action is motivated.
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Right, we're talking about variations of the Cut Pass. Very deceptive, yet easy.

For more credit info: https://www.conjuringcredits.com/doku.ph......din_pass
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Right, we're talking about variations of the Cut Pass. Very deceptive, yet easy.

For more credit info: https://www.conjuringcredits.com/doku.ph......din_pass


Yes that’s it I believe
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If this is the one I'm thinking of, James Swain had handlings called the "Dummy Force" and "Dummy Pass". I also saw Dingle use it on one of the old tapes. I've seen somewhere that Tommy Tucker's addition was to drop off several packets before completing the cut. "It could be this card, or this one, or this..."
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It’s brilliant. If I remember correctly Michael Vincent uses the TT pass or ‘shift’ in his handling of OOSOOM in his penguin live act. Check it out!
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It's an excellent pass. Andrew Frost also has great touches on it; he even has a cover pass version that's surprisingly easy.
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Rosstrainer08, thanks! That's where I know it from. It's dead easy and deceptive.
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Is Andrew's handling published anywhere at all please? This is by far the easiest pass I have seen
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Is Andrew's handling published anywhere at all please? This is by far the easiest pass I have seen


It's in his Lecture at Flat No. 9. Well worth the price. It's one of the few recorded lectures I've watched where it feels like you're actually there.
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Is Andrew's handling published anywhere at all please? This is by far the easiest pass I have seen


It's in his Lecture at Flat No. 9. Well worth the price. It's one of the few recorded lectures I've watched where it feels like you're actually there.


Thanks so much!
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I have Tommy Tucker on an old video tape doing this move , but please don't ask to see it , I no longer have a video recorder to play it on
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