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Max Milagro
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"GSB signifies Gold, Silver and Bronze. The idea is to remove gender hierarchy and race differences from our card decks. Why should the King have a higher position than the Queen? Why should the King, Queen and Jack be white? However, rather than complicating the sex and race inequality debate even more, we decided to remove the gender and race factor as a whole and to introduce a common, universally known ranking system. All the other cards in the deck are the same as usual. This card pack was designed with the passion to fight for equality in gender as well as race. Our goal is for everyone to feel comfortable while playing cards."

This may be a non-issue for some, but personally I encourage all initiatives that contribute to a more gender-neutral understanding.
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"Why should the King have a higher position than the Queen?" - because it's a game. And games have rules. Like chess. The key is to put the king in check but the Queen is the most powerful piece. And its white vs black. Should we change it? No. To do so would be lunacy. Just like gender neutral playing cards.
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I'm a black man.

I never paid attention to whether or not my playing cards (jacks, queens and kings) are black or white.. Could care less....

I perform card magic and leave all the extra stuff out of it.
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I didn’t know the face’s of the face cards had a color (I know the suite has color) but I always thought the faces to be colorless outlines. I guess I could be wrong ... just my take on it. As far as the gender of the cards I don’t see an issue creating a gender neutral alternative to the current system but I’m not sure magicians are the place to start .... not because magicians as a whole do or do not agree with gender equality ( I would never generalize a group like that and I certainly would not venture to speak for a group) but in my opinion one big reason that magicians do card tricks is because people are familiar with cards, they are a common, house hold, almost universal thing, sure what the backs look like and the picture card imagery might change from 1 brand to another but if some one is asked to “pick a card, any card” what ever they pull out they know & understand with out explanation. Once you start changing some of the cards you have to be concerned with wether or not your audience is going to think that your using some kind of “magicians deck” in order to accomplish your slights you have taken years to master. Maybe down the line once common playing cards that people are familiar with have gone gender neutral magicians will happily use them but until than you may have a hard time getting magicians to use them .... just my opinion on the matter ... again I could be totally off
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On Jan 13, 2021, Max Milagro wrote:
Our goal is for everyone to feel comfortable while playing cards."

I'm all for equality and that sort of thing, but where are all these people that are uncomfortable playing cards because of the gender/race aspect of the court cards? I can't imagine that this is a problem of such a scale that it needs to be addressed. Seems more like a solution in search of a problem.

"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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Great. Now playing cards are offensive.

Anybody know where I can buy some bronze rabbits?
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First hard pass of the new year
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On Jan 13, 2021, camron wrote:
I'm a black man.

I never paid attention to whether or not my playing cards (jacks, queens and kings) are black or white.. Could care less....

I perform card magic and leave all the extra stuff out of it.

Well said Camron. It's a complete non-issue, but unfortunately we all now have to be careful not to criticise!!!!!

I'll be a rebel... What a load of ********!
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I just proved to my wife that I do not but every magic trick or deck of cards that comes my way. The gender-neutral paying cards are a Hard Pass for me too!
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This project has received a lot of publicity in the press, one example being this article:

Gender-Neutral Cards Replace King, Queen, And Jack.

That article states things such as the following:
● 23-year-old Indy Mellink, from the Netherlands, hopes to "remove gender hierarchy and race differences" from traditional card decks
● Per rules, a King is more valuable than a Queen in a game of cards, and Mellink found herself troubled by this "subtle inequity" of it all.
● Mellink said, "If we have this hierarchy that the king is worth more than the queen then this subtle inequality influences people in their daily life because it's just another way of saying 'hey, you're less important." She added, "Even subtle inequalities like this do play a big role."
● She began testing them out on professional card players who have never been conscious of sexual inequality in cards before. Supporting her cause, the head of the Dutch Bridge Association Berit van Dobbenburgh said that it is important for people to reflect on gender inequality.


It's statements like that which show that this project is being presented not merely as an alternative, but is motivated by a concern that traditional playing cards are offensive, because supposedly these have a "subtle inequity", which is "troubling", and "influences people in their daily life". Clearly the creator does believe her system should replace the current system of kings, queens, and jacks, because according to her the traditional system subtly influences people in a bad way. Really, is cancel culture now going to interfere with our beloved playing cards, because it believes them to be fundamentally flawed? Oh please.

I'm sorry, but this is political correctness gone mad. I'm really not excited about PC leftists taking offense at the classic deck of playing cards, or their insistence that we must neuter standard playing cards in this way, dismissing centuries of history and tradition in the process.

For the record, I also happen to believe that there are two different genders that correspond to our biological sexes, that these are to be equally valued, but are a created difference, and correspond to different roles. I also believe that somebody who has a different viewpoint to this has the freedom to say otherwise, just as I have the freedom to express my viewpoint on this.
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