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SIX Inner circle New York City 1773 Posts
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I'm looking for in-the-hands, non-gimmick coin effects. Is there a book or video out that has these effects which are strong? I don't mind some table effects or is there a book out with these effects?
Thanks six |
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Tom G Inner circle SW Michigan 2912 Posts
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Six,
Take a look further down for the post about Paul Cummins Up in Smoke. Dan has a review, too. Tom |
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SIX Inner circle New York City 1773 Posts
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But I do prefer stuff if I'm surounded.
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mike gallo Inner circle 1339 Posts
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David Roth has some very nice stuff in his book.
Mike |
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cloneman Elite user 474 Posts
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So does Sankey on "Revolutionary Coin Magic."
"Anything is possible... if you don't know what you are talking about."
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27470 Posts
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Six, most of us who try to make magic, wind up using gaffs ONLY where they are really needed.
I have several tricks in print, and almost all are non-gaffed. I have a small book in manuscript that is all about stand-up coin magic and there are no gaffs involved there either. You might want to start with David Roth's big book and savor the learning. Then... meet the guy. He is great and can be giving when you are ready to learn.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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SIX Inner circle New York City 1773 Posts
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I heard his book is mostly table effect, that's why I did not pick it up.
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Jonathan P. Inner circle Belgium 1482 Posts
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Roth's book involves a lot of table work but since it is really big, the stand-up work is still worth the book.
In addition to that, to have really nice explanations for such moves as shuttle passes, retention vanishes, and other "important" moves in coin magic can help you to improve your work, in all the "coin-situations" you'll ever encounter. David Stone has nice routines of stand-up coin magic in both of his tapes about coin magic. Check out the copper-silver routine (non-gaffed) of Paul Wilson in his Unusual Sessions DVD. Great. Jonathan |
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DJG Inner circle 1428 Posts
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The coin effects I do are all in-the-hand, can be surrounded and with ungaffed coins. What I did was look at effects I wanted to accomplish and just adapted them.
Is there a particular coin effect you want to do? |
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James Harrison Special user Ontario, Canada 762 Posts
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Jon,
You said you have a manuscript out of some of your coin effects. Is this available to the public yet? |
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SIX Inner circle New York City 1773 Posts
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I am working on CCC and Three Fly.
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owen.daniel Inner circle England 1048 Posts
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From what I have read of Rune Klans from his previous effects taught in Magic Magazine over the last couple of years, most of his material rarely uses the table.
At the bottom of this post I will include a PM sent to another member of the Café, which has details of all of Rune's material from Magic (recently). The point is that I am sure that the material in the his video Three Pieces Of Silver are of similar style. All of which use three coins (that's a surprise)! Owen Here is the PM: Quote:
...have succeeded in finding the Rune Klan tricks, which I know of that appear in MAGIC Magazine. I have only been getting MAGIC since 2002, so there may be some tricks which you will need to search for before then. The tricks are included in September 2002’s issue, with Michael Close on the cover, and March 2004’s issue, with Alan Shaxon on the cover. |
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dogwood86 Regular user Vancouver 124 Posts
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Check out Rune's stuff. He doesn't use gaffs.
I also just picked up R. Paul Wilson's booklet 13, and it also has two three coin routines which are very nice. There is another coin and purse routine which is seemingly a three coin routine, but little does the audience know...that you're actually also using a mongolian bush monkey! Pick one up before they sell out. Hank Lee's having a sale. Only one of the three is completely in-the-hands, but the coins through table is designed for a hard surface restaurant table. (Of course if you're doing complete strolling you're not going to want to perform a coins through table. Which again brings to mind Rune's "coins through floor", followed by his short chink-a-chink which is found in his video). Only one of Wilson's routines uses a gaff. I don't have any more Wilson stuff, but his DVD/videos have a few routines as well as his 3 Fly "crowded coins". Search for Doug Brewer. Heard good stuff about his book. The companion DVD will be out soon enough. Nathan |
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts
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Dean Dill's Matrix, anything from Hit The Road DVD and Ammar's Easy to Master series on money magic. There is one effect where the last coin drops from nowhere.
Rannie
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts
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On 2004-06-24 11:28, rannie wrote: Which is John Kennedy's effect. |
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SIX Inner circle New York City 1773 Posts
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I actually have almost everything mentioned. I have Dean Dill's two newest DVDs. I have 13 by Wilson. I have the video where he teach 3 fly and other great effects. I have Ammar's Easy to Master Money Miracles. I have Hit the Road and last but not least, Rune Klan's three pieces of silver which I did not watch because I have been busy.
Most of the stuff you guys named uses a floor or table. I looking for the exact opposite. Thanks guys. |
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Curtis Kam 1960 - 2025 same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts
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Six,
If you'll make the time to watch Rune's video, I think you'll be quite pleased. Ninety percent of the stuff he does fits your requirements, and the one thing he does on the floor, well, most places you perform at will have a floor. Of course, if you find Rune's stuff just too easy, and you want standing, surrounded, examinable, audience-tested routines that require a bit of practice, you could decide to invest the time into Palms of Steel volumes 1, 2, and 3. Silver Circle, Beijing Coins across, Chinese Silk and Silver, Coercive Purse, Through and Through, Triple Alliance, Copper/Silver/Bent, and New York Spellbound are all routines from my professional strolling playlist, and they all fit your requirements. Okay, a c/s coin may sneak in here and there, but neither that, nor a "Karate coin" really qualify as "gaffs", right?
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James Harrison Special user Ontario, Canada 762 Posts
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Somehow, they never seem like gaffs in your hands Curtis, just in the hands of mortals.
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Open Traveller Inner circle 1087 Posts
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You know, it sounds like Six needs to start first with Modern Coin Magic by J. B. Bobo. Anyone who's absorbed that book might not be asking the question.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13426 Posts
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Here is a list of stuff I like.
jay sankey's No Jacket Required is a good trick as is his mr. clean accross and Tenkai pennies. gregory wilson's 99 cent trick is nice and easy. Many coins accross routines exist. See the coins accross phase in kam's work. requries no extras. Ammar's coins thru silk is great Kurtz has a great coins and silk Kam has a great coins and silk Roth Spellbound routine John Bannon has some interesting coin work that are quite attainable. Many one coin routines exist, a simple one of which can be gleaned from John Bannon's One is the Onliest routine. Frank
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