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"Absolutely genius - a true piece of magic!"
- Piff the Magic Dragon

"Summit is fire! It's early into 2021, but it's the trick of the year for me."
-Ekaterina (Ekat Magic)

From the minds of Patrick Kun, The Other Brothers & Abstract Effects --comes a thought of card to Sharpie unlike anything you have EVER seen!
Even includes a routine and method for ONLINE performances.

Keep the Sharpie in view the ENTIRE time.

At last, a thought of card to Sharpie that has NO card switches, NO sharpie switches, and a PRACTICAL yet mind-blowing method.
https://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=66618
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Whatever the copy says I suspect a limited card choice. It’s nice to know how limited if several people see this at a party and compare notes
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I mean, it's either, basically, "Inferno" inside a Sharpie, or it's some variation of an Instagrab/ind*x kind of effect. Would be nice if the trailer was a bit more upfront in describing the trick.
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That's a big statement from Ekat. Therefore I'm interested, despite the fact that the Other Brothers are involved.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
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Couldn’t you simply convert your own sharpie and stick a rolled up card inside and perform your favourite card force routine?
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The video says no deck in play, no equivoque. Without an equivoque or a deck, not sure how it can be a force. Unless they're defining equivoque very specifically, which is possible. And of course it's possible, probably likely, that there's another way to force I'm not thinking of!
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It’s the other brothers so say no more. The advertisement blurb is total BS.
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I can’t wait to see how this plays out.
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Just watched the trailer...what it shows looks amazing..but need to see a full performance..
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It claims that they only name the card after you have removed it from the sharpie lid, but if so why is the sharpie necessary? Is it possible that this is some kind of ind*x that loads into the sharpie lid and you gain knowledge of the card before they say it through fishing? If you have no knowledge of the card until after you’ve removed it from the sharpie lid it almost seems too good to be true. It would be interesting to get some reviews on this.
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The trailer says "Everything you see in the full performance is exactly what it looks like in real life."

That's not even remotely reassuring given that they haven't provided a full performance.

The trailer also says: "You ask the spectator to GENERATE a random playing card..." That sure sounds like some kind of process is involved.
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On Feb 5, 2021, Jonathan1000 wrote:
The trailer says "Everything you see in the full performance is exactly what it looks like in real life."

That's not even remotely reassuring given that they haven't provided a full performance.

The trailer also says: "You ask the spectator to GENERATE a random playing card..." That sure sounds like some kind of process is involved.


Bingo.
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On Feb 5, 2021, pegasus wrote:
Couldn’t you simply convert your own sharpie and stick a rolled up card inside and perform your favourite card force routine?
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Exactly.
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Based on what we see then I’m inclined to think limited in**x with a restriction on card choice

Load into the cap and, when placing cap on the pen the card is inserted.

I’m therefore very dubious that there isn’t a big tell to the magician as to what the card is.
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The fact that the face of the selected card is never shown throughout the entire trailer suggests that the 'generated' selection is very limited. We would no doubt see the same card a few times in those 'performances'.
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Regarding Summit according to the Magic Shop of San Diego email...

Questions I know you will have right away:

Can it be any card? NO
Is it self-working? NO
Any switches? NO
End clean? NO

Overall this is great. It has some limitations but what magic doesn’t?
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It's never a good sign when the trailer is shot in such a way that you see so little of the effect.
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Hey everyone!


https://youtu.be/h3jZ1JDa2yM

I hope my review answers some questions you all have!

Let me know if you have any other questions!

Tyler Smile
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This is from the MJM email about the effect:

"Now, I know what you're probably thinking. "That's easy. They forced them to pick that specific card, and it always has to be that same card." I hate to say you're wrong, but....."You're wrong!" You don't have to do any complicated force to have them think of a specific card. You just tell them to think of a card that they feel represents themselves, and that's pretty much it!

It could be the Queen of Hearts. It could be the King of Spades. That card will be in the sharpie pen!"

___

I can guarantee you that if you ask a woman for "a card that they feel represents themselves" and she says the Queen of Hearts and you remove it from the sharpie, the only thing people will think is "that must be what every woman names" because that's the obvious solution to the effect. Only a magician wouldn't understand that.

I would like to know exactly how limited the revelations are. Are there four possibilities? 8? All the face cards? I could possibly find other uses for this but asking them to name a card that represents them is useless unless they can say "the two of spades" or something completely random.
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I’m guessing it’s limited to just the court cards.
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