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Thanks for the info Bill, it sounds brilliant if you can handle it that close up and freely Gaz 😊
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Same here...my gimmick looks perfect. There's no way that a spectator would notice anything suspect...It genuinely looks like a stack of small index cards and can even be placed in the spectator's hands. The only reason I mentioned using mine mostly for stage/parlor work is because I have more natural-looking options for an 'everyday carry' peek device. Personally, I wouldn't walk around carrying a stack of index cards stuffed into my pocket while doing daily activities. But if I were working a strolling gig I wouldn't hesitate to use the Insider since I wear a jacket while performing.
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On Apr 5, 2021, Jared wrote:
Same here...my gimmick looks perfect. There's no way that a spectator would notice anything suspect...It genuinely looks like a stack of small index cards and can even be placed in the spectator's hands. The only reason I mentioned using mine mostly for stage/parlor work is because I have more natural-looking options for an 'everyday carry' peek device. Personally, I wouldn't walk around carrying a stack of index cards stuffed into my pocket while doing daily activities. But if I were working a strolling gig I wouldn't hesitate to use the Insider since I wear a jacket while performing.


Think this could be great for a Q&A type act.

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I agree with Jared on his reasoning about it being better suited for parlor or stage. And as already mentioned, a strong point of this is getting several pieces of information and being able to take multiple peeks. Perhaps writing numbers on the card and having 3 or more specs write down their info next to each number, thus involving several people.

As for an EDC, why carry a stack of index cards when you can use your wallet which you will be carrying anyway?
If done impromptu you’re typically going to be doing something fairly quick and not a full blown routine lasting several minutes.

It’s just a matter of using the right tool for the job, even if another tool could work.
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Well stated, videoman. My edc is a SAW, and I can't see that ever being replaced for most situations absent the need for multiple peeks.
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Thanks Jared for confirming, I was purely talking about from a close up gig stand point. Not just casual down the pub sort of stuff which I agree there are other options that offer other utilities like to carry your money or packet effects etc. I love the devious method of this though Gaz 😊
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Gaz, you're going to love the Insider...It's REALLY good! Heck, I already ordered a second Smile
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On Apr 4, 2021, rosariorose9 wrote:
After an hour or two 'stretching' the hinges, it now works well. Thanks again, Joel!


I had the same problem as you rosario, I’m glad you asked about it because that stretchy method really worked!
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So glad to have pulled the trigger on this one ! I use a longer type of rubberband ( Joe Rindfleisch ) that I can pull around twice the package so I have more time to do what needs to be done.
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I'm falling off the wagon hard.
Ordered.

And Looch has an updated version of Blink coming out in brown leather...

Lord help me I'm kinda hating you enablers at the moment Smile
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On Apr 7, 2021, 252life wrote:
I'm falling off the wagon hard.
Ordered.

And Looch has an updated version of Blink coming out in brown leather...

Lord help me I'm kinda hating you enablers at the moment Smile


My thoughts exactly - again aware about Blink 2 being released any day now.
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Blink 2 might make for a good edc which can also allow for multiple peeks. It is a very nice improvement over the original.
Hopefully it will be available in black as well as brown.

Not sure it will beat out my Alias wallet though. The peek on that is so imperceptible and it immediately goes into the specs hands. But the price you pay for that is it is a very quick peek, can be hard to see in darkish environments, and is really best for drawing dupes.

Love Insider though. The more it gets broken in the more I love it.
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The same effects can be done with business cards (good for close-up or strolling) - and without a gimmick. It looks the same to the spectator, and you just need to do a p**s. This product's gimmick is great I'm sure, but the audience doesn't know or care about the gimmick. I don't like being a downer on this, because magicians really like it - but I just don't see the need for a gimmick.
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I’ve been playing with this for a few days now and really like it. As far as buying replacement index cards from Marc vs making your own...I’d recommend just buying the refills.
This is something I will absolutely be using professionally. It won’t be any kind of an edc but I can see it becoming a go to device. It meets one of my biggest criteria thankfully, it’s fun Smile I’ve never been a big fan of Marcs releases so I was a little hesitant initially. But I am very pleased with this purchase and absolutely recommend it.
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On Apr 10, 2021, dduane wrote:
The same effects can be done with business cards (good for close-up or strolling) - and without a gimmick. It looks the same to the spectator, and you just need to do a p**s. This product's gimmick is great I'm sure, but the audience doesn't know or care about the gimmick. I don't like being a downer on this, because magicians really like it - but I just don't see the need for a gimmick.


One of the advantages of Insider is that you can peek the information again (or multiple times) with no moves / suspicious activity! - great if the handwriting isn't too good or there are multiples pieces of information on the card. It is ultra-clean.
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Well. that sounds good! Also, it is better for parlor than mine, which is mostly for close-up.
Thanks.
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Been playing with this for a few hours. Am I the only one who cannot get the hinge to properly 'pivot' one handed? Pushing with the thumb doesn't work unless I grip the two ends with my thumb and four finger respectably, and start the 'hinging' - otherwise, my thumb is just pushing against the hinge. Any tips would be appreciated.


I ran into this same issue. I could not activate the gimmick with my thumb pulling up one handed from the bottom middle of the card. I have large hands and spent over an hour trying to activate the gimmick one handed with my thumb pulling up from the middle of the gimmick card. So glad to hear with a bit of "stretching" it ended up working out for you-- I will try the same on mine. I can activate it with my thumb on the corner-- but not starting from the bottom middle as Marc does in the first minute of his tutorial. I'm sure I will figure it out and I'll try stretching my gimmick out a bit. Great device-- I just ordered a second actually!!!
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On Apr 12, 2021, Drtriage wrote:

One of the advantages of Insider is that you can peek the information again (or multiple times) with no moves / suspicious activity! - great if the handwriting isn't too good or there are multiples pieces of information on the card. It is ultra-clean.


You can do that with dduane's suggested handling as well. You can't show the bottom of the packet but they don't think the card is on the bottom anyway.
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True but you have to keep turning the pack over where as with the insider it just appears to remain consistent in the spectators eyes, Gaz 😊
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On Apr 14, 2021, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
True but you have to keep turning the pack over where as with the insider it just appears to remain consistent in the spectators eyes, Gaz 😊


You would hold the packet pretty much the same way as Insider. It's the same handling (apart minor differences in inserting the card), you just can't hold the packet with your palm upwards once the drawing is in peek position. You keep it to your side or towards yourself. Basically keeping the packet in "wrist kill" grip after wrapping it with the rubber band (which means you can peek whenever you want, as many times as you want without flipping anything over).

If you really wanted to, after wrapping the packet and pretending to capture their thoughts, if you needed more time to peek you could pull out the top card of the packet, place it on the face and write your impressions as you peek for as long as you want.

I'm not suggesting doing this gimmickless is better. I was just pointing out that dduane had a valid point that you could do basically the exact same thing without the gimmick and it would look virtually the same to laymen. The gimmick does make it look cleaner and you can "worry" a bit less about your handling.
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