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if the max resolution is 360p I would only send this to people who still have a Nokia...


And the percentage of the population that would actually care about the resolution is probably 0.01. Especially with all the Zoom and Skyping in the past year even on network broadcasts.
Besides, you donít have to send it to anyone if you donít want to, thatís just an additional feature. Iím not sure what the max resolution is, I havenít heard that discussed. I donít see it as an issue.

Iíve had previous dealings with Yaniv and Liron Levy and they seem like good people to me and very trustworthy. But also, Benke Smith seems to be a fan of Duality and he knows a thing or two about apps. If Cobra decided they no longer wanted to be in the app business I could totally see someone else taking it over from them.
Not saying anything like that is likely to happen but another reason Iím not overly concerned about future support.
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if the max resolution is 360p I would only send this to people who still have a Nokia...


And the percentage of the population that would actually care about the resolution is probably 0.01. Especially with all the Zoom and Skyping in the past year even on network broadcasts.
Besides, you donít have to send it to anyone if you donít want to, thatís just an additional feature. Iím not sure what the max resolution is, I havenít heard that discussed. I donít see it as an issue.

Iíve had previous dealings with Yaniv and Liron Levy and they seem like good people to me and very trustworthy. But also, Benke Smith seems to be a fan of Duality and he knows a thing or two about apps. If Cobra decided they no longer wanted to be in the app business I could totally see someone else taking it over from them.
Not saying anything like that is likely to happen but another reason Iím not overly concerned about future support.



sure, if I wouldn't have standards regarding video quality in 2021 and performing only for friends and not on a professional level I would not care about lowres videos either...will hobbiest pay that price? From a professional view I would not use those videos.

if people wanna pay a high price for low quality: go for it. I will happy to get proven wrong that 360p is max resolution. But as it seems a realtime insert I guess it is.

Again: only my opinion on that app.
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sure, if I wouldn't have standards regarding video quality in 2021 and performing only for friends and not on a professional level I would not care about lowres videos either...will hobbiest pay that price? From a professional view I would not use those videos.

if people wanna pay a high price for low quality: go for it. I will happy to get proven wrong that 360p is max resolution. But as it seems a realtime insert I guess it is.

Again: only my opinion on that app. [/quote]


The resolution of the video player is as high as your mobile phone (up to 4k).

When you share the video it compresses the video to full HD (2 MBps) so it's fast shared.

In the near future, we will have the ability to share the original quality.

For more information visit our private FB group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/CobraMagic
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Why there are some people who are so anti android? IF you do not like Android, just keep your mouth shut. Making unnecessary remark or condemn about it only make you looks like a moron. When a creator came out with a new magic app, if you like it, you buy it. If you don't, then just walk away from it. Usually a creator set the price for a reason. If you cant afford or you think is not worth it, just skip it. U don't have to comment so much since you have not use the app yourself before.
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Why there are some people who are so anti android? IF you do not like Android, just keep your mouth shut. Making unnecessary remark or condemn about it only make you looks like a moron. When a creator came out with a new magic app, if you like it, you buy it. If you don't, then just walk away from it. Usually a creator set the price for a reason. If you cant afford or you think is not worth it, just skip it. U don't have to comment so much since you have not use the app yourself before.


People are anti android for magic apps for many valid reasons. It is appropriate to say those on a thread about a magic app or when people are complaining about one being only iphone
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Yaniv, how much user customization if any is possible?

Can it only be black numbers on solid white background?


You can only use the same color for the prediction text as you use for the cover... sometimes it's difficult to match the color exactly, so make sure you remove the cover really quick. I wish they added the color filter option (as we saw in MentalPlay) so the prediction would be visible only over a white background, and we could move any colored objects in front of the prediction...
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After finally receiving the test version of Duality 2.0 (after several weeks of delay), I took the time and effort to extensively test the "brand new app". I have posted my bug report, suggestions and feature requests in the "Duality users" facebook group. Shortly after that I've got kicked out of the group with no reason. Be prepared for my detailed review of my "Duality experience"... coming soon. Smile
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On Jul 6, 2021, BenkeSmith wrote:
After finally receiving the test version of Duality 2.0 (after several weeks of delay), I took the time and effort to extensively test the "brand new app". I have posted my bug report, suggestions and feature requests in the "Duality users" facebook group. Shortly after that I've got kicked out of the group with no reason. Be prepared for my detailed review of my "Duality experience"... coming soon. Smile



That's absolutely bonkers! Unfortunately, current users do feel let down by the developers of this app. There is very little shared about the plans for the app, i.e. what features will be released when. Unfortunately the app is also full of bugs and has issues.

I hope the developers sort out their act and listen to users else this is a doomed project Smile
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On second thought I've decided not to write my detailed review about my "Duality experience". I'm sure many users will write their own reviews soon... I just wish the Cobra Team good luck, and I hope they will learn from their mistakes.
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Just now aware of this app (yes, I'm late to the 'game', as usual). So glad I read this thread before purchasing. As one of the many fans of Benke, and with great respect for his genius and his honesty, his thoughts on this app are, as we lawyers say, 'outcome determinative.' So, needless to say, I'll be passing on this one...
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Although Iíve only had really positive experiences with Yaniv (the Duality app developer) in the past, Iím not feeling the love this time. Iím sure a lot of it has to do with their team being new to the app game. Itís a completely different animal than developing and updating hardware based components.

Unfortunately, Iím getting the same vibe from the Cobra team as I did long ago from the T-boys and Nobody Knows. Primarily that they donít seem to want to discuss what their upcoming plans are, and they seem somewhat unwilling IMO to implement user feedback.

As with T-boys, I feel like thereís this mindset that if we didnít think of it, then we donít want to do it. Itís the old attitude of ďthis is our baby and we know better than you, so weíre going to do it our wayĒ.
I hope this is wrong and they start incorporating more user suggestions but the feeling so far is that most feedback is falling on deaf ears. But itís hard to be certain because they remain very quiet and opaque. Benke seemed to love the app and to be genuinely excited about its potential, often sharing new ideas, suggestions, and videos. So obviously giving Benke the boot from the users group was not a good sign.

Again, although they appear to be open to suggestions publicly, they also seem like they donít want anyone telling them what they should do or pointing out problems.
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Does anyone know if the recent update has been added yet? I know there was feedback on the resolution being quite low when sending the video to the spectator as not being very good. Or when the number is revealed it is of a lower resolution quality to the rest of the video?
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After resolving our issues, I'm back testing Duality. Smile
Here is a compilation of my revelations so far (all made with Duality v1.0):
https://youtu.be/AHo3mkn6z7A
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Hello everybody,

We would like to address the recent posts here, and hopefully, answer all of your questions.

It's not a secret that Duality is our first magic app, but we are learning fast and we have well-experienced friends who help us growing.

If it seems that we are not communitive enough with our customers, regarding our upcoming plans for Duality, it is something that we will take into our consideration and try to improve upon.
However, We are highly aware of our user's requests, and even if we don't share everything publicly, we can assure you that all of the feedback is being implemented as fast as possible.

We are always open for improvements and critic, and we are available for private chats and video calls for every question you might have.

Duality is not only a magic app, it's a tool for magicians to book more shows and to engage with the spectator.


For more info- https://www.cobra-magic.com/collections/......agic-app


With warm regards,
The Cobra Magic team.
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Thanks for your reply Yaniv, and great to hear that you and Benke have sorted things out.
But understand that promises (and good intentions) are easy to make but the proof is in the results.

For anyone getting into the app game the bar has been set very high with Benke, Marc Kerstein, Ian Pidgeon, and others.

For ďproofĒ here is Marc's latest post regarding his Streets app:

Magicmarcuk:
The 9th update of Streets Pro since its release last month is out now.
Amongst other new features, it also brings support for the Oblivious Notifier Sharpie.

Ninth update in a month, and note that Streets is certainly not Marc's only app heís supporting.

So no one criticizes to be harsh or mean, but it is simply that we have been spoiled by some really diligent, talented, and hard-working app developers.
You are stepping into the ring with them so naturally you are going to be compared.

Also, IMO, gone are the days when an app developer would toil away for several months or a year (teasing users all along the way) and then release a new version with several major additions/improvements.
Now for the most successful app developers itís release an update maybe every few weeks (or often days) with maybe only 1 or 2 improvements. That seems to be Benke and Marc's MO. Focus on a single issue, get it worked out and then release it and begin to tackle the next one. Rather than feeling like you need to bundle 30 bug fixes all together in a single release.

Now having said that, please allow me to make one suggestion regarding Duality.
This app, almost more than any other, simply screams out for the use of a hidden remote such as Versa and Wilson remotes.
Now I realize that not everyone owns a remote or wishes to so itís great that you have other clever methods of input that need no additional equipment. But many folks do own and use third party remotes and supporting these would certainly make Duality that much closer to being nearly perfect.

I also realize that supporting a remote is probably not as much fun and rewarding for you when compared to creating some brand new clever and creative self-contained input method. But this is a perfect example of being able to ďlet goĒ and not just do what you want to do, but giving many of your customers what they want as well. It is possible to do both.
Please donít get on the downhill path of the T watch boys and essentially refuse all suggestions because you feel like you are smarter and know better than all of your users. Thatís a crash and burn recipe for disaster.
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On Jul 27, 2021, BenkeSmith wrote:
After resolving our issues, I'm back testing Duality. Smile
Here is a compilation of my revelations so far (all made with Duality v1.0):
https://youtu.be/AHo3mkn6z7A


Thanks for sharing your compilation Benke. Great ideas. I have been using the original Duality and lately installed Duality 2.0. While installing I needed some help from Yaniv. I sent him a message and got an instant response. In the new version there is an improved menu and more options. It shows that Cobra magic are continuously working on improving the product. I'm ready to try out the new features and curious to see future developments with the app.
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This app, almost more than any other, simply screams out for the use of a hidden remote such as Versa and Wilson remotes.



these would certainly make Duality that much closer to being nearly perfect.



We are working on adding a remote control for Duality.

Thank you videoman
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