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saturnkk
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So, I have recently gotten back into magic after a ~25 year hiatus! Most specifically I have been focusing on mentalism and related effects. To that end, I have purchased a few Luke Jermay effects and books (online and at a local shop). I do like his work and offerings so far so I went looking for more. In my travels I seemed to have gone down a rabbit hole that lead me to a number of threads that had some fairly serious claims against Luke not fulfilling obligations (basically stealing) and having poor customer service as well as horrid responsiveness. Seemed this was 10 or so years ago so perhaps this has been addressed (I hope). That said, before I start further supporting Luke, I wanted to get some confirmation that he made things right with those he wronged and that he has been on a good/honest and reliable track since?

I am not looking to cause a huge emotional fight. I just want to be sure that my hard earned $$$ is supporting a decent guy and not flake or worse.

Thanks in advance.
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He's a decent enough person to have very good personal relationships with Max Maven, Michael Weber, and other luminaries in magic and mentalism.

He's a decent enough person to have a very good working relationship with Vanishing Inc. So much so that he has partnered with VI to produce his own mentalism convention.
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On May 4, 2021, Mac_Stone wrote:
He's a decent enough person to have very good personal relationships with Max Maven, Michael Weber, and other luminaries in magic and mentalism.

He's a decent enough person to have a very good working relationship with Vanishing Inc. So much so that he has partnered with VI to produce his own mentalism convention.


That is good to hear! Does that mean that he straightened out the past issues with customers? That seemed to be the crux of the issue(s)...
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I never had any issues with him, but then I only discovered him after the troubles. You could try reaching out to him and asking, he's active on facebook and instagram, you can also contact him trough his website.

He has spoken before about his time as a very young and very successful Las Vegas performer being the lowest point in his personal life, I believe this was the period where people were the most upset with him.
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I ordered a Blindfold book from him years ago and have still never received it. Haven't heard much from him here in a while.
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On May 5, 2021, Mindpro wrote:
I ordered a Blindfold book from him years ago and have still never received it. Haven't heard much from him here in a while.


It is these kind of stories that concern me. He seems very bright and charismatic so why do business this way?!? And if he hasn't made amends yet, why not?

I really like his style and creativity but I struggle to support someone that has, seemingly deliberately from the posts and threads I saw, ripped people off. Maybe he has made up for it and Mindpro is a one off... Was hoping to hear that I guess.
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Probably in the minority, but I also never received a hardcopy of the Blindfold Book (but I did get a pdf). There was one other ebook that I never received from Luke, but I've written it off in my mind and have purchased things from him since. I believe his contributions have outweighed mistakes he made early in his career.

I don't think he acted with malice or bad intent, I think he was just bad at managing the business part, which now seem to be outsourced to trusted firms like Penguin. I had similar problems with another well-known mentalist's ebooks, but it was so long ago I've forgiven them both; it's not worth hanging on to that anger, at least for my mental health. Everybody has different perspectives and tolerances for perceived wrongs.
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I don't think he acted with malice or bad intent, I think he was just bad at managing the business part


I agree with this as well. I never knew there was a pdf of Then Blindfold Book. I actually had the hard copy in my hands in Las Vegas but he said it was a sample copy there for only show and reference for those interested. No, he never corrected it with me.

These bad business practices have also occurred with Jerome Findley, Docc Hilford, Bob Cassidy, and others. I never got my Findley books, but I was made good by Bob Cassidy after a couple of years once his operations were handled by others that helped him get straight.
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You two are kind. I, personally, wouldn't be able to sleep well at night until everyone got what they paid for if it were me. Different times, different generation perhaps...
John C
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Never bought anything directly from Luke. What I do have I never had a problem getting from other vendors that sell his items.
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saturnkk
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He is a creative genius so I have purchased a few items from shops. I hope he has this sorted out...
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I've had no issue with Luke in awhile, he's been pretty reliable for quite awhile now. Jerome Finley on the other hand...
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Premise and Premonition and Jermay's Mind are two more recent Luke Jermay DVD sets that are outstanding and available from dealers.

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STARE, AN4QVU, Mr. Chumley Takes a Peek, The Elvis Peek, Micro Billet Q&A, Instant Psychic Readings or Just for the Hull of It (Q&A 1-2-3 + Hull of a Peek) are sold separately and are available for $20 each. To order send Paypal for $20 to: mindreaderfxfx@gmail.com and specify which title you are ordering.

Videos are streaming only and cannot be downloaded.

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There was a time, years ago when Luke lived in Las Vegas, where he seemed to be overwhelmed and had trouble fulfilling sales. But that was in the distant past. I have no hesitation in purchasing from Luke today. I think he puts out really excellent material.
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Jermay's Mind is great in my opinion. There is a lot of great thinking on that. I don't know him personally, but I have found great value in his work.
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