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anton.magician
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I think you should to watch the explanation carefully before post bad review before try to play with it. The plastic is strong. For stage and parlor performance everything is invisible.
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Strange enough, I never had that problem watching the explanation... And the trick turned out to be a great one, so maybe take time to review explanation video before reviewing the actual trick Smile
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For me, this isnít crap. It works fine, I will definitely use it.
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I usually don't chime in on these issues since I rarely buy a new product. Plus, I'm not a mentalist. But the comedy power in this is great. Always liked the routine but didn't like the force. The idea of using a f**p c**d is very old and upon reading the Tom Stone's routine I wondered why he didn't use that instead of the dice force. I agree with most of you that Stone's dice force is a strange one to include in this type of effect. The fact there is no force is WAY better of course. Why wouldn't you? I agree with some that Prestige could have been more sturdy for the money with not much more expense or effort. If you're careful with it, it could last fine. Tip: Cut out a semi-circle on the plastic where the cards reside so you have easy access to the card's removal. I'm not big on elastic either and probably would opt for manual operation of the cards. My first thought is a way to be able to change the routine with different words but, sadly, you can't. The disappearing numbers is a no-no for me. If you're going to have a "topper" effect, it better be better than the one before it. This will just leave an audience with a dull question mark on their minds and you've just erased the big finish. Just my opinion. Still - I'm glad I bought it and will use it.
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Nice to see Jeff Hobson here on this thread! The trick was invented by a creative guy from Russia. Initially it was sold privately, but now it is on the market. Well, I can say the idea is very interesting. I have seen different performers with this trick - I will not say that the reaction is very strong. Many are missing the idea of ​​creating a whole magical act with this. Usually everything is trite and boring. Personally, I prefer the dice, I saw a grand presentation at FISM.
The magician who shared the presentation with me asked to keep his ingenious ideas a secret. And I keep my promise
It was fun and fooll audience. Smile So I don't need it. My friends bought it and many of the trick went out of order that evening. But they fixed it by buying elastic thread. I think only Jeff will create something special with this. I believe that you will create a fun and deceiving routine.I hope to see it someday! It will be something special! I'm a fan of 90s magic. I love watching old TV shows with Mr.Jeff Hobson, McKing, Fielding West. Legends of Comedy Magic. Your friend Eugene!
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Got mine from Stevens. Good introductory price of $125. Still steep but better than the Alakazam price. I love the concept as it allows for very clean handling with no force. As others have pointed out, whether the build quality will hold up remains to be seen. The plastic sleeves are very thin and I can see them breaking down over time so I wish those were thicker and less shiny. As for the gimmicks, they seem to work well. However, seems like an obvious design choice should have been to make them out of dry/wet erase material so you could change the words easily. As is, youíre stuck with one set of words. The included stencils are a nice touch. Wish they would have included a few more. The carrying case is also nice and necessary given the fragility of the props. Overall, itís a tad pricey but if it holds up, itís a worthy investment IMO.
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Iím sure I watched Justin Willman do a non force version of this on his Netflix show.
I canít remember the words he used but remember it being very funny.
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Justin ended with words being revealed as "ANAL"

I want to use a Sharpie large permanent marker that writes very bold but I'm afraid it will bleed through. I did a test and the marker soaks through 3 sheets of regular plain paper. Anyone has experience using a large, bold Sharpie?
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I wasnít paying attention when I was prepping mine and did the words in the wrong order on the first card. So mad. But for what itís worth, I used a jumbo sharpie and the included stencil and didnít see any bleed through
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The coolest thing - but if you are as attentive as I am! 1.18 MINUTES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDfg1Vq6vvY&t=80s


you will see the principle of J.Wilman (INvented by Blake Vogt) and in my opinion it is better than the old little rectangle. What do you think about this?

People in Russia reacted funny to this word that Jeff was talking about. But there are all kinds of parties and it can be horribly dirty. But if you work in Vegas on the night show, it's very funny! Smile
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On Jun 30, 2021, jeffhobson wrote:
I usually don't chime in on these issues since I rarely buy a new product. Plus, I'm not a mentalist. But the comedy power in this is great. Always liked the routine but didn't like the force. The idea of using a f**p c**d is very old and upon reading the Tom Stone's routine I wondered why he didn't use that instead of the dice force. I agree with most of you that Stone's dice force is a strange one to include in this type of effect. The fact there is no force is WAY better of course. Why wouldn't you? I agree with some that Prestige could have been more sturdy for the money with not much more expense or effort. If you're careful with it, it could last fine. Tip: Cut out a semi-circle on the plastic where the cards reside so you have easy access to the card's removal. I'm not big on elastic either and probably would opt for manual operation of the cards. My first thought is a way to be able to change the routine with different words but, sadly, you can't. The disappearing numbers is a no-no for me. If you're going to have a "topper" effect, it better be better than the one before it. This will just leave an audience with a dull question mark on their minds and you've just erased the big finish. Just my opinion. Still - I'm glad I bought it and will use it.


I'm not sure why I'm mentioned here. I'm not involved in this money/socks Bank Nite routine, and obtaining it doesn't give performance rights to any of my work.
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Iím sure I watched Justin Willman do a non force version of this on his Netflix show.
I canít remember the words he used but remember it being very funny.

Justin didn't do a Bank Nite routine, but a version of "Of Dice and Men" from my 2011 book "Maelstrom". He sent me a very cordial thank you note about it.
The final words revealed (anal) was first used by David Persson, a few years before Justin.

The vertical display with plastic pockets was my first version, back in September 2003. Turns out that unless you always work on a proper stage, half the time, the bottom three cards get obscured by heads of other people, and only the first row of people will react well. A horizontal display made sure that everyone could see the ending, regardless of the venue.

Between 2003 and 2008 I experimented with loads of various solutions. Most of them didn't need a die, but made use of it anyway, because it gave motivation to the limited number of cards, it's an archetype as a symbol of randomness, and it motivated a bit of social interaction that still was connected to the plot at hand. Having it gave me a lot for free, plotwise.

Before 2008, I think I tried around a dozen different solutions. One of the better ones was based on Max Maven's "Symbol Simon". Performed well, but was way too tricky to set up and reset. Standard flaps necessitated an inelegant change of blocking to cover the angles. Acrobatic flaps worked very well, but wore out way too quickly. Sliding flaps just looked weird. One version worked well in the winter, but not in the summer. The one that had the most carefree handling was based on the Magic Coloring Frame, but its holder looked like a very suspicious contraption. And none of the solutions allowed for making quick versions for other languages... I considered doing it in Japanese TV in 2004, but decided against it simply because I didn't want to spend a lot of time on building a complicated gadget for a one-time use. Quite often, I chose not to perform the piece, due to limitations caused by the solution used.
Now, with the final version from 2008, I can make a version in any language in less than 10 minutes, there's no blocking issues, it travels well. I perform it everywhere, with no hesitation. Inner and outer realities are well intergrated and there are no redundancies.

But that's "Of Dice and Men", for which Vanishing Inc now own the rights to. It is not included in "Prestige by Hide Magic", which this thread is about, so it would be unfair to them to talk about my work in the context of their money/socks routine.
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Just received this and the gimmicks are all visually misaligned (and therefore obvious) when in set position.
To be more clear, the top is wider than the bottom.

but even if this were not an issue, the 'seam' is clearly visible from as far away as 20-feet.

Am I missing something here, or did I receive a defective set?
emyers99
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Pull up just one flap instead of both.
eSamuels
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Thanks, Eric.
much better... that was a real 'Duh!' on me!!

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Good to hear Tom Stone's history on this. For the record, my Sharpie "permanent" marker DID leak through. I tested it in a small way so I finished up with using water-based markers and no bleed-through.
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On Jun 20, 2021, Robert Sixx wrote:
Prestige by Hide Magic

https://www.alakazam.co.uk/prestige-by-hide-magic.html

Anyone know who will be carrying this in the US? Shipping to the US from the UK is a nightmare right now, takes forever, if it doesn't get lost. Looks like a fun routine, and the vanish of the numbers at the end surprised me.

Robert


I bought this from Stevens Magic. It is total junk. I will be returning it. If it wasn't so expensive I would just throw it away. 4 of the 5 cards are made wrong with a big obvious ridge across the middle. Plastic pockets are very cheap. The f**p is 1/8th of an inch too big on each side so the square isn't square. And more. I paid to have it express shipped so that just adds insult to injury. Buy at your own risk. I think you are going to see a flood of bad reviews over the poor quality. There is no excuse at this price point. Purchase at your own risk.


Thanks for honest review, lot of people donít like to say anything bad , but a bad review is as helpful as a good review
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On Jul 25, 2021, JackMagic wrote:

Thanks for honest review, lot of people donít like to say anything bad , but a bad review is as helpful as a good review


Agreed, but it's been said a few times in this thread that the flap issue is caused by pulling back both flaps instead of just one. So the flap being misaligned is apparently not a problem. The cheap plastic sleeves, maybe. I don't own this, just following the thread.
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I was looking for a solution without force, die or anything else. Prestige was the best answer. Thanks for this product guys !
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On Jul 25, 2021, JackMagic wrote:

Thanks for honest review, lot of people donít like to say anything bad , but a bad review is as helpful as a good review


Agreed, but it's been said a few times in this thread that the flap issue is caused by pulling back both flaps instead of just one. So the flap being misaligned is apparently not a problem. The cheap plastic sleeves, maybe. I don't own this, just following the thread.


Well stated, Patrick.

I was one of the people who misunderstood the flap setup. I have, subsequently, gone back and re-watched the instructional video.
While the instructions could have been a bit more clear on this important point, everything is now working as it should.

That said, my main concern with this entire kit is durability.
In that regard, had I known what I know now, I would likely have opted for a set of Blake's Acro Indexes.

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