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Jared Inner circle Rhode Island, USA 1623 Posts |
Got mine the other day and I absolutely love it! ...A great bit of thinking from Peter. He took a very old, but solid principle and turned this into a a memorable thought of card effect that's ideally suited for strolling (no reset). Also, it can also be performed quickly (15-seconds) or extended into a longer (2-3 minute) presentation. In short, Zoltar's Opener was made for WORKERS!
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Fire Starter Inner circle 4846 Posts |
Mmmm might have to get this I have been on Holiday all week and not been on line and hey presto.I purchased a Mini Zoltar speaks prop,from Waterstones ,talk about FATE,all ready have a routine with a deck of cards and the prop and tickets you get with it, been looking at the official Zoltar trade mark cards,but daft US postage stopping me getting them, so will use these for both routines, I have a gig at a Fate coming up and I am doing a Carnivale theme.
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rbromley Regular user USA 175 Posts |
I wonder if they will release a version with red and blue backed Zoltar designs in the deck, so that the reveal and card you hand to the spectator is not just a regular bicycle card...
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magikmax Regular user Scotland 113 Posts |
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On Jul 25, 2021, videoman wrote: Videoman, I picked up a deck of Bicycle Kadar cards for The Man Who Knows routine by Liam Montier. These appear to be based on the Zoltar theme, might be worth a look |
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MikeMgc Regular user 183 Posts |
As a Bizarrist and lover of the Carnival (Carnivale) theme, this looks great and will be picking this up, very good application of the principle, straightforward and simple and will fool and impress laypeople.
I also have a life size "Madam Zelda" Gypsy Fortune teller in my performing Room, complete with bleeding eyes, light up eyes and light up crystal ball. So this will play very well with this effect. |
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MikeMgc Regular user 183 Posts |
I also have a fortune telling presentation using the Kadar Deck (mentioned by Magikmax) for the Astor Trio effect. So this will play very well with this effect also.
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MikeMgc Regular user 183 Posts |
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On Aug 2, 2021, magikmax wrote: I think the Red and Blue Zoltar cards is a good idea or perhaps a red back vintage design. The issue I see with the idea of the Tom Hanks picture on the back, is that you are then tied solely into this presentation. There are so many other presentation possibilities with the Zoltar idea - Carnivale, seaside, fortune telling etc. |
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videoman Inner circle 6891 Posts |
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On Aug 1, 2021, rbromley wrote: As I said in an earlier post, I actually put together my own modified version and it turned out pretty nice if I do say so myself. I used the Ask Alexander cards as I already had a couple of these decks. https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S14188 The Ask Alexander cards have red backs and follow the fortune teller theme closely enough and I actually now prefer the design difference than if they were all Zoltar cards except in red. But it would be cool if Alakazam released an add-on pack of specially printed contrasting cards. I agree that it is not necessary at all to use different backed cards as far as the impact of the effect, however it did open up some opportunities to change the presentation just a bit to suit my style better. That’s why it was worth it to me. But I’m sure most will opt to do it exactly like Peter. The other aspect was that I felt it strange to show all Zoltar cards and then their selected card was a run of mill red bike card. That just felt anti-climactic to me but no doubt others will disagree. Just before the reveal I mention that Zoltar had a lesser known twin brother named Richard, who most agree couldn’t pull off the turban look as well as Zoltar so that must be why...and then it ends with either Richard not being granted the same mental gift as Zoltar, or it ends with Richard being the true mind reader in the family. So this whole endeavor has lead to a few more jokes and gags but I can still keep the routine very short and sweet as with the original. The other additional thing I did was add SF to half of the backs of certain cards in the deck. The reason for this is that I liked how the cards were shown to be all red backs using a dribble. The dribble can get fairly messy allowing specs to see a lot of red backs with the messy, face down deck. However, the display of the blue Zoltar backs I felt was less convincing. I know, I know, probably magician thinking but I still didn’t care for it. So now I can spread through them in my hands or ribbon spread them if on a table. The trick is great straight out of the box I just like to add my own touches where I can. As I said before I believe this release is a winner. Kudos to Peter and the A team. |
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caigy Inner circle England 1199 Posts |
[quote]On Aug 2, 2021, videoman wrote:
As I said in an earlier post, I actually put together my own modified version and it turned out pretty nice if I do say so myself. I used the Ask Alexander cards as I already had a couple of these decks. https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S14188 The Ask Alexander cards have red backs and follow the fortune teller theme closely enough and I actually now prefer the design difference than if they were all Zoltar cards except in red. But it would be cool if Alakazam released an add-on pack of specially printed contrasting cards. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Thank you for the great tip videoman. I have ordered the Zoltar Opener today but would like to know whether the red Alexander cards match-up exactly size-wise and do what they need to do, without having to carry out any arts and crafts? Many thanks. Paul McCaig.
Exclusive Worldwide Producer and Supplier of the Grismer Lock.
Top Class, Individually Crafted Performance Pieces, For The Discerning Psychological Entertainer www.psychicmentality.com |
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lucavolpe Inner circle Italy - London 3354 Posts |
This is a real worker! My review will be up tomorrow un my Facebook group (Luca Volpe Mentalism Production) in Breakfast Mentalism!
Luca Volpe
"The Italian Mentalist" https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/lucavolpe http://www.lucavolpe.com |
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videoman Inner circle 6891 Posts |
[quote]On Aug 5, 2021, caigy wrote:
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On Aug 2, 2021, videoman wrote: Paul, unfortunately some arts and crafts is required. I had to do some “work” to them, but since I have the required tools and have done it many times (enough to have made my own jig for the task) it was not difficult for me to do. I even have masking templates made up to apply SF in a certain area and make it as invisible as possible. At the moment I’m spending many hours modifying a Magic Wagon prop so obviously I see changing props to suit my taste not as work but rather as a very enjoyable endeavor. However, I am well aware that I am part of a small minority in that regard. |
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caigy Inner circle England 1199 Posts |
Thank you videoman.
I think your suggestion is well worth the effort, so I am still going to get an Alexander Deck and ask David Diamond to professionally do the necessary 'work' to the red cards for me Many thanks again. Paul.
Exclusive Worldwide Producer and Supplier of the Grismer Lock.
Top Class, Individually Crafted Performance Pieces, For The Discerning Psychological Entertainer www.psychicmentality.com |
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David Klass Inner circle Beckenham, England 1236 Posts |
Love the routine.
Not so keen on the dribble convincers. Easily fixed by using a regular deck and just one sticky faced Zoltar card on the face. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Great idea David, I suppose the 2 face cards could be identical jokers so there is no discrepancy when you take the selection off.
Alternatively just wrist kill the deck as you need to show the backs at that stage anyway Gaz 👍😊 |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Plus there is more heat on the deck in an effect like this imo so the fact that it’s regular solves the issue.
Makes you wonder sometimes if we over complicate the invisible deck etc at times as this is a fail safe method with a 51 card deck examination if called upon Gaz 😊 |
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videoman Inner circle 6891 Posts |
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On Aug 5, 2021, David Klass wrote: That is certainly a time tested method that I love. Trouble is I've used it so many times in so many ways (yes/no, right/wrong, odd color back, etc., etc.) that I have to admit that I have grown tired of it. I know that makes no difference to the specs, it's new to them, but I still can't bring myself to use it at times. But I do like that you can go into a card set using the now regular deck. But I also like that with Zoltar you can put the card in their hand and have them turn it over at the end. So have the chosen card be normal, or have the deck be normal. I do like using the Zoltar/Ask Alexander cards because I simply have more fun performing the routine (and that has to count for something) than it simply being an odd card out finish, and with those cards you have a plausible excuse to bring out another deck if you wish to do more card tricks straightaway. So it all comes down to whatever you fancy. Many ways to skin a cat as they say. |
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Alakazam Magic Official Loyal user 275 Posts |
Hi,
Thank you for all the kind words and I'm glad you're liking Zoltars Opener. When creating the effect I tested various options including having blue and red backed Zoltar cards but after a few performances I decided on going for the standard back as I found the reaction to be a little stronger. There is a huge difference between the thought of card and the deck which I think hits really hard visually (either way round) but obviously this is personal opinion and you may prefer it another way. I hope you have as much fun with it as I have. Regards Peter |
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rowland Inner circle 1537 Posts |
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On Aug 5, 2021, David Klass wrote: I haven’t got this yet but wouldn’t that mean that the chosen card would be the only card that isn’t examinable and they would surely want to look at that if they are going to examine the deck. |
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David Klass Inner circle Beckenham, England 1236 Posts |
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On Aug 10, 2021, rowland wrote: Personally, I don't let anyone examine anything. Not because I can or can't but because it disrupts the flow of performance and turns it into a puzzle/ challenge. |
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magicbyswh Inner circle North East Tennessee 1541 Posts |
It amazes me how many people are concerned about letting props get examined. Just don't let them examine your props.
Creator of Cereal Brainwave, Creator of the Tossed out Book
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