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Shikanominarazu
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In my CSB routine, for reasons that are likely obvious to most of you, the majority of the time the audience sees the head of the silver coin. In the last phase, I can show either side. I'm not sure what is better: show heads to keep it consistent, or show tails to show that both sides can be seen. What do you guys think?
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Methinks there are other options that the two you offer.

orchestrate the desire for magic to occur so strong they do not notice or care about heads or tails.

get them so involved in story using personification and anthropomorphizing psychology that "coin" is not a reference and 'side' irrelevant.

to use borrowed or spectator selected coins so that they are perceptually "pre-inspected" and beyond suspicion or need of acquitment.

to massage the Summarization of events to have them remember seeing both sides even if they did not.

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regardless, your concern over this issue can transmit to the audience as doubt . So, how do you make it not be a concern for you, then it will not be a concern for them?
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On Aug 18, 2021, funsway wrote:
Methinks there are other options that the two you offer.

I must disagree here. Even with all of the mitigation of them "not caring," people notice stuff sometimes. Nothing says I can't work on atmosphere and think about what side of the coin is up should someone notice. Even with awful presentation, I doubt it will be noticed more than once in a hundred performances, but this is a fairly minimal effort (effectively none once I'm used to it).
So, heads heads heads?
Or heads heads tails?
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Why not just flash both?
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Why not just flash both?

Interesting idea. Slight technical challenge but doable.
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On Aug 18, 2021, Frank Yuen wrote:
Why not just flash both?

Interesting idea. Slight technical challenge but doable.


What's the challenge? Let's assume your gimmick has TAILS for the half dollar.
In most basic CSB routines you stagger the coins in one hand laying the half dollar on top, HEADS up.
You close your hand, turn it over and pull out the nested gimmick TAILS side up.
Totally congruent with your actions and they see both sides of the half.
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On Aug 18, 2021, Shikanominarazu wrote:
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On Aug 18, 2021, Frank Yuen wrote:
Why not just flash both?

Interesting idea. Slight technical challenge but doable.


What's the challenge? Let's assume your gimmick has TAILS for the half dollar.
In most basic CSB routines you stagger the coins in one hand laying the half dollar on top, HEADS up.
You close your hand, turn it over and pull out the nested gimmick TAILS side up.
Totally congruent with your actions and they see both sides of the half.


In the phase I am describing, I am actually pulling out the half, whilst secretly removing the gimmick, which is why it can be either side up when I remove it from my hand. The technical challenge is to turn the coin over without exposing the hidden gaff. It's not particularly difficult, but it could be busted if I'm not careful about it.
I put the half tails up (my gaff shows a head) in the spread of coins in the other phases to achieve the effect you describe in all the previous phases, just to make sure everything looks copacetic.
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On Aug 18, 2021, Frank Yuen wrote:
Why not just flash both?

Interesting idea. Slight technical challenge but doable.


What's the challenge? Let's assume your gimmick has TAILS for the half dollar.
In most basic CSB routines you stagger the coins in one hand laying the half dollar on top, HEADS up.
You close your hand, turn it over and pull out the nested gimmick TAILS side up.
Totally congruent with your actions and they see both sides of the half.


Agree!
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If they only see heads, isn't that a giveaway?
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I don’t think anyone notices or cares but us.
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You are running w/ out being chased. It goes right by them everytime… Every single time. remember when you first saw it? what do you remember? 🙂🙂
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Solving this from a different direction, I have decided to reales my "Triple By-Pass" routine as a follow-up to a CSB presentation.

You have three Volunteer Assistance each select a coin to 'protect" and thus prove its normality in the handling.
With one holding the Silver, another the brass and the third the Copper and verbally confirming which they hold
the coins change place in their hands with you across the room - a triple transposition.

Can be done with any three different coins, poker chips, butts, etc - but has special impact following a CSB routine,
and the original version used Hershey mini-bars.

This not only serves as Acquitment for the coins be normal, but accentuates the transpositions you did in hand with the CSB.

I still usually have spectators select the three coins in the first place as mentioned above so that I can refer to "their coins."
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