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Morganjj Regular user 168 Posts |
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On Oct 9, 2021, Joaquin wrote: I can't work out how you're measuring this, and I don't want to get into method but this is not right. It's much less than that. Maybe you're doing something more than needs doing? |
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Morganjj Regular user 168 Posts |
I looked up the suggested NCP Switch.
The display isn't nearly as clean, but it is simple. Also easier to get looking fine, imo. It (again, imo) lacks the ability to be scrutinised Switch One has. Switch One feels like a switch is impossible. I don't think the NCP Switch gives that same transparency. That said, if there's no heat on a switch anyways you'd be as well to go with the NCP. |
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AutarchicFlux Special user 583 Posts |
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On Oct 10, 2021, Morganjj wrote: I think he must mean 90 degrees, but even that's an overestimate. |
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dyoung Special user 898 Posts |
I was just thinking I must be doing something wrong, as my card isn't spinning like a ballerina
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theoriginalman Regular user 183 Posts |
Dyoung moist hands/fingers may help, also think of your index finger as a fulcrum point on the card as you execute the move . I know that that may sound "cryptic" but it works.
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dyoung Special user 898 Posts |
Oh, I have zero problems doing the switch, got it down to a reasonable level within 10 minutes. Just when I read that billet/card is rotating 360 degrees by Joaquin, I was laughing, and felt compelled to make a silly post about it spinning like a ballerina
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Claudio Inner circle Europe 1927 Posts |
I haven’t bought S1, but Joaquin’s post (an oversight, no doubt) made me laugh too as a 360 spin would bring the card to where it started 😊
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ElliottB Inner circle 3250 Posts |
Thanks! I am glad to hear some of you like the NCP Switch, in addition to amazing and invisible Switch One.
Since you all mentioned the NCP, I will share something that I realized immediately after Alexander May showed me his excellent Clip Stick Switch. The NCP switch, and all other switches in Switchcraft that function under similar Baker Style principals, work quite nicely with a clip stick. In the case of the NCP (and several variations also found in Switchcraft) you remove the billet from the clip stick and open the billet. There is no pass from hand to hand, and I find it even easier than picking up a billet from the table. It is quick, easy, motivated, and invisible. That said, Barrie Richardson's opening switch is one of my favorite opening switches of all time. The EB Clip Switch, which was inspired by Barrie's opening switch, would probably also work well with the Switch One trick and gimmick. Barrie also had a version with a pen clip instead of a paper clip, which he told me was inspired by the EB Clip Switch. That would also work great and seems more organic in casual settings then using a paper clip or clip stick. The EB Clip Switch and Barrie's opening switch are in Switchcraft. I cannot remember if the Pen Clip version is in there or not. I wrote the original instructions for the Pen Clip move it after Barrie shared it with me on the phone years ago. I think a slightly different version ended up in Barrie's third book. |
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dyoung Special user 898 Posts |
I think its important that people understand, that not only are you getting the switch and the thing, but also a Facebook community. I know I've added a couple of thoughts on there, that's hopefully interesting to people.
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Joaquin Veteran user 328 Posts |
Dyong
You are obviously just playing with the move by having the selected card already in your hand. But unfortunately the sequence of the effect does not start there. You still need to position your ballerina in the right orientation so you can do the move. Yes you are right 360 was an oversight and I apologize. But at least is a 180 if you consider where the starting point of the overall effect is. Elliot thanks for your post. I appreciate it. |
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AutarchicFlux Special user 583 Posts |
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On Oct 11, 2021, Joaquin wrote: It's less than 90. I'm still not sure where you're getting this figure from. The card doesn't need to completely turn around during the course of the effect, let alone the move. |
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Morganjj Regular user 168 Posts |
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On Oct 11, 2021, Joaquin wrote: Just trying to wrap my head around what you're going for here, without taking the thread downstairs. Are you saying that from the index it travels 90 degrees before the switch? Because the load happens undercover, and it's also not like you don't have to load the NCP. I'm just confused as to what you're trying to explain! |
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dyoung Special user 898 Posts |
How I get the card into position is irrelevant, and would be the same for any other switch. No spinning ballerina at this point. Then it spins 90 degrees during the move. that's it.
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
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On Oct 11, 2021, Joaquin wrote: Perhaps you should configure how your cards sit in your in**x. The way it is taught in the Switch One instructions, the card is in the correct orientation when you retrieve it. There’s no fumbling after retrieval to get it into the correct orientation. This should have been obvious to you that you just needed to have your cards sitting in your preferred in**x differently to what you currently have it in. The movement is completely covered as well. There should be no perceivable movement from the front and all the action that happens in the back is from the exposed angle which is facing you and you can cover that angle as needed by bringing the card closer to your body. These things that you bring up as issues really are easy magic 101 things. I am having a hard time trying to figure out what is creating so much issue for you. Perhaps you can post a video into the private FB group so that everybody can take a look at it and give you tips for whatever you are stuck on? |
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ElliottB Inner circle 3250 Posts |
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On Oct 10, 2021, Morganjj wrote: While the NCP is not my opening switch of choice, my official position is that every move in Switchcraft is clean, easy, and invisible. I know this because I intentionally leave out all the mediocre stuff. I got home a little early today and noticed this specific post. After doing some chores, I ran down stairs, folded some business cards, and shot this quick and grainy video on my desktop web cam. I only did one take and did not edit it at all, so I apologize for the amateurish appearance. I also have not used the NCP in quite some time. But the NCP is easy enough that, once you spend a few minutes learning it, additional practice is not really needed. Anyways, it looks pretty clean to me. https://youtu.be/35LAD2WPqgY Perhaps Switch One is cleaner, though. I do like that move very much. |
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
Elliott, you do not need to defend yourself or Switchcraft. What happens in this field is that everyone wants to find the holy grail. It could of ACAAN, or peek wallet, or double lift, etc. What they don't realize is that most people who watch magic or mentalism will see most things in the same way.
As I've said many times, the spectators see the forest, we see the trees. I remember seeing a post decades ago that made me laugh and drove in the point. A mentalist and his wife were in the audience of another mentalist. The guy on stage did one of those book tests where you need to multiply by a number then divide by your shoe size then add the change in your pocket to get to a page and word. After the demonstration the wife turned to her husband and said, "Oh, he did that book thing you do." And the mentalist husband angrily barked back, "I do the MOAB!!!!" So even his own wife saw both effects the same way. I would bet if you did all these cool switches to a regular person, and kept using different ones each time, they wouldn't notice the difference. We are fixated on the trees. Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts |
Well said Greg.
"The New York Papers," Mark Twain once said,"have long known that no large question is ever really settled until I have been consulted; it is the way they feel about it, and they show it by always sending to me when they get uneasy. "
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Morganjj Regular user 168 Posts |
Elliot, Switchcraft is an amazing resource and the work you put in is remarkable. NCP looks good! I still stand by the claim that under scrutiny, S1 looks better.
Hopefully Mark Calabrese will step in to post some of his Switch One work though for contrast - even going through frame by frame, you would swear the card never leaves view. |
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ElliottB Inner circle 3250 Posts |
Thanks, Greg, Steven and MorganJJ.
Switch One does look very good. I watched it several times, and could not spot the switch. |
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Magic__Ian New user 10 Posts |
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On Oct 15, 2021, ElliottB wrote: yeah, it's pretty clean. But the card goes out of view. This is the advantage Switch One has over this. |
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