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MattyMediocrity Regular user 169 Posts |
It seems like the exact same mistake is treated completely differently on a case by case basis.
I'm going to use Red by Craig Petty as an example because it's so well documented. Craig created the trick. Craig showed it to pros and a magic shop to make sure it was original. It passed preliminary opinions on originality and was released. The trick turned out to not be original. Craig pulled it from the market immediately and apologized. Exactly where did Craig go wrong here? It seems like he did the right thing every step of the way. I can't make sense of the brutal backlash he received. It's especially odd that so many others have made the same mistake, and not only didn't have to deal with backlash... they never even pulled the product. If anyone is able to explain this to me, I would appreciate it. Thank you!
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will lane Veteran user Will likes to post so he has made 339 Posts |
I think with RED, Craig Petty sold a routine that wasn't original but also the trailer was misleading. It probably wouldn't have been as big a deal if it was just an originality issue. A similar thing happened with Summit recently.
And like with most things in the public eye, people are quick to jump on a bandwagon and tear someone apart. Even if they don't know the whole story. Even for an honest mistake. Or even for a slightly dishonest mistake but with an honest apology. To answer your question, there is no explanation. Some people just get tore to shreds over the smallest mistake, while other people who made a "worse" mistake go by unscathed. There is no reason or explanation, it just happens to some people and not to others. --- While we're here, the issue of originality can get really dangerous and concerning for creators. Really, nothing is likely a completely brand-new idea. Anyone could claim intellectual infringement on 99% of marketed tricks today. If I were Craig Petty, I would have apologized, but re-filmed and re-focused RED to be a "new handling" of whatever trick it was he accidentally took from- all with a price drop as well. |
MattyMediocrity Regular user 169 Posts |
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On Oct 17, 2021, will lane wrote: Thank you! Your answer is definitely helpful. This is the conclusion I've reached every time I tried to make sense of it myself, but I guess seeing you say it helps me accept the fact.
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3526 Posts |
Craig Petty is a lightning rod who attracts controversy and scandal.
Regardless of whether or not he did something wrong, rest assured SOMEONE will be falling over backwards to be the first one to stick the knife into him ...
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MattyMediocrity Regular user 169 Posts |
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On Oct 18, 2021, gaddy wrote: Yeah, I watch his YouTube stuff often. You can tell he has a big heart, so it's easy to have empathy for him when he's attacked... even those occasional times when he commits an unforced error and brings it upon himself. It's hard not to root for the guy who wears his emotions on his sleeve. You want to tell them to learn how to handle things in a more stoic manner... but then I guess that wouldn't really be being themself? I believe I saw the quote under Steve's profile, "be you because nobody else can" 😂 Anyways, thanks for the reply!
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threadman77 Loyal user 281 Posts |
Craig is an agenda driven guy. If it doesn't fit his - he ain't interested. And every time he is called on his "less than cordial" antics, he plays the "you don't even know me" card. Oh we know you all too well. Your characteristics are well documented!!
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MattyMediocrity Regular user 169 Posts |
"Craig is an agenda driven guy"...
Yeah, I think that's fair. I could use a little of that, but understand how the characteristic is off putting in excess.
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threadman77 Loyal user 281 Posts |
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On Oct 31, 2021, MattyMediocrity wrote: He's a bit more than off puttin - I would go with obnoxious and annoying! |
Craig Petty V.I.P. UK 2298 Posts |
Hey if you are going to have a conversation about me please allow me to be a part of it.
What would you like to know? I’m an open book despite being agenda driven. Lol! Please elaborate what my less than cordial’ antics are. |
Craig Petty V.I.P. UK 2298 Posts |
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On Nov 1, 2021, threadman77 wrote: Actually forget it! I’ve just realised who you are! Don’t bother replying. I’ve had enough of you constantly messaging me over the last 6 months to last a lifetime. |
MattyMediocrity Regular user 169 Posts |
If you're talking to me, I've messaged you three times. Each when you told me to.
I think you've mixed up who the one is attacking you. You should read the thread again
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Craig Petty V.I.P. UK 2298 Posts |
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On Dec 6, 2021, MattyMediocrity wrote: No Matty. I apologise if you think I was talking about you. I was talking about Threadman77 or whatever his name is. Out of everyone in this thread he was the one that was bringing my character into question. And that’s his decision! But we have some history which I can’t be bothered to go into. I’m an open book. Happy to answer any questions. And again I’m sorry if you think I was addressing you. I should have been kore clear. |
Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Ya know, I wish they'd stop dissing Craig. I've gotten to like the guy a lot. I could almost consider him a friend! It hurts to see hate! We need to fix this...
Doug |
MattyMediocrity Regular user 169 Posts |
Please don't say "they" in this context. This post defended Craig. Someone showed up and "dissed" Craig, and I tried to show empathy for him as I do with everyone... but it's not "they" dissing" Craig. It's that one guy. I'm a huge fan of Craig. Most everything I've learned about magic is from watching his YouTube channel.
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