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magicbyswh Inner circle North East Tennessee 1548 Posts |
This was Great when Mozique came out with it years ago. Now with Flux and Scan 3d these are heads above a magnet detector inside a Sharpie. As other have said it sure looks like a step back in time. Flux can be used in so many more ways.
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
Pardon me but I don't see any ad in this product that says that this is better than flux or replaces flux or any other such thing. Geez, relax, this is like any other new release it's just a new way of doing it.
Why all the negativity? When I get mine I'll compare it with my scan 3 d and eclipse from Christopher T. I have my scan 3d in a bunch of biz cards and use it as a pointer. Now I can use pen and cards as pointers to be doubly certain. please continue...if you must. |
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dooblehorn Inner circle Pittsburg, CA 2474 Posts |
I still have my working Cobra sharpie, which I love, so don't need this, and yes, I use it all the time for smash and stab. There was a long period of time when the sharpies was unavailable, so I'm glad to see this released and available. Wow, the price has certainly gone up, though. I also have Flux, which I also use, I love them both. Just depends on the effect I am doing. I think they both serve their purpose very well.
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Deckstacker Elite user Sunny SoCal 442 Posts |
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On Oct 30, 2021, John C wrote: Hear, hear! John C. -- I had just composed the following remarks when your post appeared above. I also see this new product as simply another means to an end--one that will suit the performance style of some and not others. We simply have more choices now, and that's always a good thing, no? (smile) I note that 'magicmind' and others who have quoted him here keep repeatedly associating the phrase "empty handed" with the Flux sensing device. Excuse me, but "empty handed" to me means that I can gesture casually, turning my palms fully toward the audience, showing them to be perfectly empty, touching things randomly, grasping a spectator's shoulder, etc. (Aside: This has been, until now, the unique feature of Gauci's Eye to Eye that I have loved most). Gaz L. apparently enjoys this freedom with Flux using his beloved sleeve technique--Go Gaz! But I wonder ... does anyone else here ever expose the supplied finger shell to such bare-faced scrutiny? Mine, as delivered, is actually a near-perfect color match to my native skin tone; but the light reflectivity is slightly "off" and ... well, IMHO not quite "ready for prime time." And even after several attempts at customization, the shell still fits my chosen digit imperfectly and requires active palming to keep from dropping it. On the other hand--yeah, I know--I look forward to experimenting with my newly pre-ordered Intuition device as described by the OP of this thread, namely, "as a pointer or 'Magic Wand' that allows you to have your hands empty while you perform." I have already had a magic wand of my own design in the pipeline for some time for use as a distractive device (electric, not electronic), and this may well open up a host of further possibilities. We'll see--I can hardly wait.
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3614 Posts |
I definitely would not say that you are empty handed with flux.
And quite frankly, anytime anyone does a which hand or any other ability to detect an item in an envelope etc., the scrutiny is 100% on your hands. So unless you are openly showing your hands as empty (and you wont be with flux, unless you want to quickly "flash" your hands which adds even more scrutiny), using a marker is truly the hiding in plain sight fix. I have a routine where the detection occurs way before anyone even knows that you detected it. And marking the envelopes is a perfectly normal action--that's when I get my reading. Then with the marker put away, and some byplay. You do the reveal and everything is examinable and there is nothing to find. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
The thing is a) it’s not a new idea, b) I can easily put my Flux into a Sharpie if that was better for my performance anyway.
So to me this is a nothing product, when I buy effects particularly like Flux I have found about 10 good options of where to hide the gimmick if I don’t want to use the shell so it will obviously seem and is for me a major step backwards. Why would I want to use a Sharpie as a pointer when I apparently don’t use anything at all or touch anything? I think this is aimed at the newbie imho Gaz 😊 |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
Gaz, I bet you’ll buy one sooner or later!! Haha
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3614 Posts |
Flux was not a new idea when it came out either. Not sure what that has to do with anything?
To each their own. I find uses for both. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Craig made Flux’s predecessor? Joao copies lots of existing effects but never even normal takes them forward.
I can name you quite a few as I have them Gaz 😊 |
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Joao Miranda Elite user Portugal 441 Posts |
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On Oct 30, 2021, Roberto W wrote: Exactly. A bigger magnet will increase its distance. Intuition comes with a small magnet that works perfect for all the routines shown in the trailer. For the mobile phone one I extended the marker from my sleeve to the center of the palm of my hand and by passing over the envelopes I felt the phone (you just need to borrow one of the most recent models of iPhone because they have magnets in the center inside). Just for fun I used to place the marker inside the handle of a hammer but it’s really a lot of work and not easy to make such hole |
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magicmind Inner circle My fence has 20, 3218 Posts |
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On Oct 30, 2021, Gaz Lawrence wrote: 100% agree Gaz |
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
IMO (and that's just MY opinion), when Joao Miranda releases a similar prop that's already available, I can assure you Joao must have considered the various pros-n-cons of such similar props already out there and then designed the 'Intuition'. Joao Miranda is a clever creator.
I own various magnet detectors (including couple of my own designed detector) and they include the Flux, Scan 3D, sixth Sense 3.0, Cobra Sharpie etc. etc. . . . Those who own a few different detectors will agree with me that each one of them has their own pros-n-cons. And yes, I would sure like to know:- Quote:
On Oct 31, 2021, Joao Miranda wrote: Since 'Intuition' comes with a 'Small Magnet', I would like to know the average range (in Inches) the detector can detect when using the provided small magnet. Could Joao please answer? In case the so called 'small magnet' is really small with low flux density, then IMO 'Intuition' is a step forward. I would then consider placing my order for 'Intuition'. Till then . . . I await a honest review.
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Santi New user 3 Posts |
... Since 'Intuition' comes with a 'Small Magnet', I would like to know the average range (in Inches) the detector can detect when using the provided small magnet. Could Joao please answer?
In case the so called 'small magnet' is really small with low flux density, then IMO 'Intuition' is a step forward. I would then consider placing my order for 'Intuition'. Till then . . . I await a honest review. Why is the throw distance not mentioned? It is the most important data |
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
I’m just wondering why people would go for this instead of Flux. The calibration reset feature on the Flux alone makes it a better choice (I’ve used a lot of these types of devices including Scan3D, being able to on the fly reset the calibration is a very very very valuable feature).
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Deckstacker Elite user Sunny SoCal 442 Posts |
Sorry, gang--Gaz, Ustaad, Joao--everyone. Until the left-brained among us can all agree on which units to use, i.e. Teslas, Maxwells, Oersteds, Gilberts, Webers or Whatevers, we simply lack even the basic vocabulary to begin to discuss such phenomena as magnetic field strength or flux density. And even if we could somehow get all of that sorted out, there would remain the subjective, right-brain issues of "just how small is 'small' in terms of a given magnet's size and relative strength?" -- etc., etc.
What we really need is a standard magnet such as a PK ring or magnetic coin from a particular vendor that most of us already possess and against which we could then measure and compare our favorite sensing devices against each other, no? Failing that, I'd gladly contribute generously toward a group purchase of (say) 100 small neodymium cubes to get things going, but the legalities and logistics of getting all those little standardized thingies distributed out into the magic community would be a nightmare, I guess. --Anyone got any more practicable ideas? Anyone???
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LeSue New user 13 Posts |
Let's say when performing a "which hand" effect; are these devices so sensitive that a mere 12 between hands is enough that the device won't false detect when near the empty hand?
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magicmind Inner circle My fence has 20, 3218 Posts |
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On Nov 1, 2021, LeSue wrote: If I understand you correctly, I will attempt an answer. The closer you get the stronger the notification. You then really only have to get near one hand and not touch either. a simple gesture in the general area will tell you "which hand" |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Yes agreed you want to easily be able to detect the coin/magnet through the back of a mans hand (the size of which is like a large bunch of bananas).
You also want be able to do this without actually touching the hand imo. Flux can do this if you get yourself the best magnetic coins etc out there. I have these sort of coins and also cheaper alternatives which also work but don’t work as well, ie your distance will need to be near on touching them or you will need a smaller spectators hand. As I don’t like taking these chances I always use the best magnetic coins, so it will work perfectly on anyone Gaz 😊 |
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jamo425 Loyal user 298 Posts |
What are the best magnetic coins? I know about the kreis half dollar which is powerful. But I like using quarters for the which hand effect. Anyone know where to find stronger than normal magnetic quarters?
That being said, so far I've used just a regular magnetic quarter. Nothing special. And the range for flux to pick it up through a closed hand is maybe 6 inches give or take. Never had an issue with it, but would be nice to have something to pick it up from farther away. |
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Deckstacker Elite user Sunny SoCal 442 Posts |
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On Nov 2, 2021, jamo425 wrote: See link below for the quarter that I ordered from Theory11 along with my Flux unit. It works well with both Flux and Gauci's Eye to Eye thru my closed, average-sized male fist. https://store.theory11.com/collections/g......-quarter
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