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dyoung Special user 898 Posts |
Roberto - There's a lot of stuff in life we do "just to be on the safe side". With something like this, and why there's a "probably" is because there would be many factors, is the pen being moved or kept still when not in use, what's the temperature like where it's kept, what's the humidity like etc etc. So its difficult to know all the factors and the timings etc. So its best to say "open it, to be on the safe side." as in theory it COULD affect it.
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Roberto W Inner circle 1249 Posts |
But your missing the point - is this a instruction of you HAVE to do it or a ‘It’s up to you’
The difference between your analogy of in life lol, is that you are fundamentally the one responsibility in your life scenario. With this, the question is are you liable if anything goes wrong and you leave it in longer than 24hrs. If you are, then it’s a instruction that you have to take out after before 24hrs. If it’s not an instruction then if anything goes wrong then you are not accountable and it’s not user error because it wasn’t a instruction you have to do. That’s the difference which is not just important for clarification sake, but equally as important from a money refund/exchange side. |
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rmendez Inner circle San Antonio, Texas 1253 Posts |
I received Flux and although it works well, it is FAR too sensitive for my purposes. It was designed strictly for “which hand” routines where as I believe Intuition was designed more as a general purpose utility with a variety of applications. I purchased Flux to detect Cobra 🐍 Fang and Spike but it’s range and field of detection are far too broad for me. Cobra Sharpie (AKA Intuition) has a more focused and narrow field of detection in my experiences. Basically, Flux will detect any magnet in proximity from any angle depending on strength whereas Cobra Sharpie will only detect what I point at which is precisely what I need.
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dyoung Special user 898 Posts |
I wasn't really making any analogy I just said there are plenty of things we do for that reason. It would be difficult to test it in every region and climate, factors which could affect it. Is it a deal breaker for you that you might have to open it and that he's not saying exactly, to the minute, how long you can keep it sealed for?
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
My Flux I can point or hover my hand near each fist and I will get the reading without any need to touch the spectators hand.
rmendez, what do you mean it’s too sensitive surely that’s the perfect way you want to get the reading. I am putting my Flux in a sharpie this weekend again too but from my experience with taking apart sharpies any that are left with a vent hole etc dry right up in about 2 weeks and are rendered useless. So I won’t be venting it and Flux turns itself off after several minutes if it doesn’t detect a magnet and self calibrates so there is no need to keep reopening the sharpie to be on the safe side Gaz 😊 ps this is just a trial exercise to answer a few questions of Flux’s use in a sharpie it’s not something I would do as I don’t like the flip stick type handlings or it poking out between your knuckles as Craig shows in his performance. To me you can either point with it or you feel the need to hide it, I think the latter so that’s why I won’t use it in a sharpie I would rather it completely not be in the picture Gaz 😊 |
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Roberto W Inner circle 1249 Posts |
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On Nov 13, 2021, dyoung wrote: Again your missing the point, it’s not a deal breaker in the amount of effort needed to remove it all the time etc, it’s a deal breaker knowing if this is a instruction and requirement or not. Because if it’s not I won’t need to keep taking in and out, however if it is instruction to do then the user needs to make sure you do. Because the ‘deal breaker’ will be if you get a refund/exchange or not if and when something goes wrong with the leaking. That’s why it’s either a yes you have to or a no not necessary - there can’t be a grey middle area . |
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dyoung Special user 898 Posts |
No, I get your point.
He said to take it out, to be on the safe side. Even if in his tests there hasn't been any issues, that doesn't mean it can't be somewhere else where other factors plays a part. At least that's how I understand it. |
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Roberto W Inner circle 1249 Posts |
Yet that’s fine then if that’s the clarification instruction meaning if you don’t take it out and something happens then it’s user error and the user is liable because that was the instruction to do.
So I stay with my point of it’s too much of a faff not only to be having to take it out all the time, but constantly exposing the electronics and components. |
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Deckstacker Elite user Sunny SoCal 442 Posts |
Gaz - The printed circuit board of my Intuition device has a width of 9 mm, and as such it slides easily into the gray plastic barrel of its Sharpie housing, which has an inner diameter of 10 mm. The circuit board of my Flux unit, on the other hand, has a width of ca. 12.5-13 mm and is thus simply too wide to fit into the above-mentioned Sharpie barrel. (I've tried; it just won't go.)
I am wondering therefore: When you write, "I am putting my Flux in a sharpie this weekend again," will you perhaps be using some Broad/Large or "Magnum" size of Sharpie in place of the common model that Intuition comes in? Please clarify, thanks.
Never try to teach a pig how to sing. You will waste your time, and it annoys the pig.
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
I will send you a picture when I have done it Deckstacker via pm I promise Gaz 😊
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Scottacorman New user 63 Posts |
Are we supposed to remove the tiny paper adhesive over the magnet? Also, I find that this is very poor for detecting heads vs tails. Flux better for that.
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Deckstacker Elite user Sunny SoCal 442 Posts |
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On Nov 13, 2021, Scottacorman wrote: I don't recall any "tiny paper adhesive" but doubt that it plays any functional role except perhaps to help prevent losing the magnet. I do agree that heads/tail detection with Intuition can be somewhat "fussy," but I think this has to do with keeping track of how the electronics are oriented with reference to the printing on the outside of the Sharpie barrel. Try exercising great care during installation to orient the narrow edge of the circuit board dead-on parallel to the barrel printing; then be careful again always to grasp the Sharpie with the printing perpendicular to the floor you're standing on whenever heads vs. tails discrimination is important.
Never try to teach a pig how to sing. You will waste your time, and it annoys the pig.
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Joao Miranda Elite user Portugal 441 Posts |
Just had a talk with Luke Dancy about some FAQ about intuition:
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Scottacorman New user 63 Posts |
The small adhesive paper on the circular vibrating part on electronic board. That’s what I was referring to. Probably just protective in packaging I assume.
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Deckstacker Elite user Sunny SoCal 442 Posts |
JUST FOR FUN
Scottacorman's recent posts regarding "the tiny paper adhesive over the magnet" or "vibrating part on electronic board" prompted me to perform some pseudoscientific experiments with my Flux and Intuition devices, to wit: 1. I turned my Flux unit "ON" and checked to see at what distance it could detect the Intuition device in its "OFF" state. 2. I then reversed things and checked to determine at what distance Intuition in its "ON" state could detect the Flux unit when it was "OFF." 3. Finally, I turned both units "ON" and determined at what distance apart each could detect the other. Bragging rights will go to whoever first correctly guesses the results I obtained in each of the three above-described scenarios. (Note: In the interest of fairness, please DQ yourself if you own both sensing devices.)
Never try to teach a pig how to sing. You will waste your time, and it annoys the pig.
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Deckhead Regular user 126 Posts |
Got mine. Been using it. The thing doesn’t even need to go into the sharpie. I’m face. I found a little capsule I can finger palm and use it that way. It detects heads or tails perfectly. I have been using it with totem and it’s great. It detects from exactly 12 inches away when using totem. When it comes to changing the ink an 8 year old can do it. It’s really not hard at all.
Been in magic for about two years now and one thing I am learning seeing release after release is magicians are so one track minded. When I would think of a magician years ago I would think of how they must have such great imaginations and so artistic. It’s shocking to see how close minded some are and really just lazy lol. The fact that someone is ever bothered by having to remove the electronics each time or that they have to change the ink is crazy to me. Just change it dude. Or how seriously it is all taken. It’s not that serious. We are a bunch a nerds. Trust me nobody cares and thinks it’s cool besides us. They just want to be entertained. Could be swiping through tik tok on their phone or watching someone do a magic trick. It doesn’t matter to them. Anyway intuition is amazing. I have been entertaining people the last two days. It works really well. I love it. |
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Deckstacker Elite user Sunny SoCal 442 Posts |
Deckhead - You write: "I have been using it with totem and it's great. It detects from exactly 12 inches away when using totem." My reaction to this is simply, "Wow!" The best range I've gotten so far is just shy of 4 inches (9.5-10 cm). Totem must contain one heckuva strong magnet!
You also write: "It detects heads or tails perfectly." To this I reply, "Good for you!" Some of us haven't had the same experience. Perhaps one day you'll consider sharing details about the "little capsule" that you're finger palming? Hope so.
Never try to teach a pig how to sing. You will waste your time, and it annoys the pig.
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
My friend sent me Intuition for checking & testing the device. I have played enough with the prop. OK, here are my views on Intuition.
Let me begin with the positive. In magic, I have yet to come across a sensitive magnet detector that can reliably sense/detect weak magnets - 'Intuition' has done it! IMO, this is a good achievement. Besides the very basic & routine effects taught on the teaching videos, one needs to give a serious thought as to how best this technology can be put to better use for performing more complex/mind-boggling magic/mentalism effects. IMO, Intuition has very good potential in this regard. OK, now to a couple of drawbacks (I will refrain from calling it 'Negatives'). Let me please begin by quoting one of my post:- Quote:
On Nov 11, 2021, Ustaad wrote: 1. IMO, the circuit-board could have been better designed. Seems not much thought has gone into designing the circuit-board. The battery seems to be altogether a separate entity. It is connected with a thin fragile pair of wires & connector to the circuit-board. This certainly should be a cause of concern to us, as the battery wire can snap/break if not handled carefully & delicately. This IMO, is a major draw back of the prop. In case a smaller battery was not feasible, then with a little thought, the battery could have been easily fixed firmly on an extended (elongated) circuit-board. Also, due to the separate battery (almost the size of the circuit-board), the electronics can ONLY be used by placing it inside a suitable container like a small Wand (in this case it is placed in a Sharpie). Thus the prop lacks versatility & robustness. 2. IMO, the battery charging process has been made unnecessarily tricky by using one fragile wire connection followed by another. It seems no thought has gone into it. This could have been very easily resolved by simply positioning the tiny female connector on the circuit-board at right angles facing outwards towards the side of the circuit-board (or better, if possible, the connector could have faced upwards). Right now the female connector faces the length of the board. Thus, if one isn't very careful while connecting the fragile charging wires, one can easily damage the circuitry on the board &/or the charging wires/connector. If one can handle the above TWO drawbacks + the limitation of placing the prop in a container, then this is one nice and useful prop for its higher sensitivity. Just MY opinion. P.S. I have purposely not compared Intuition with Flux.
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
Sorry Duplicate post.
MAGIC is a SECRET, without the SECRET there is no MAGIC.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke. |
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Deckstacker Elite user Sunny SoCal 442 Posts |
Can someone explain to me in layman's terms exactly what 'calibration' means in relation to devices like Intuition and Flux? I've always thought that calibrating is something done with scientific instruments (which these widgets clearly aren't), by rigorous comparison to some standard unit of measurement (about which, in this case, we are given no details).
Is 'calibration' perhaps being used here synonymously with 'setting sensitivity' (which I'm pretty sure is an insufficient definition at best)? And if 'self-calibrating' means always setting sensitivity to the same level automatically, why is that a desirable feature? Wouldn't it be better to leave control of such a critical setting to the discretion of the user, depending on the anticipated use of the device?
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