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jojo4133 New user 3 Posts |
Hi, I'm still looking for ideas for my new show does anyone have any ideas for tricks? so far I have rex ignis, dimension l, grandfather top pick etc ... my show is very epic. I would appreciate ideas.
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Dave Scribner Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 4849 Posts |
JoJo, this is a very difficult question since we don't know anything about you or the type of show you want to design. Who are you performing for, what length of show do you want to do. Are you looking for closeup, stage, parlor or walk around? You said your show is very epic. What does that mean?
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jojo4133 New user 3 Posts |
Hi Dave, I'm on a new show I'm doing in the theater (Parlor). So the show should go about 90-120 minutes. by epic I mean that it is partly underlaid with epic music. As a person on the stage, I am very elegant (steampunk)
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
I like to help everyone but am very confused. If there is a stage it is not parlor. If your show is based on an "epic" we have to know what that story is, characters, appropriate props, etc.
are your desired effects supporting the characters, the storyline or some imaged power or ability? For me "steampunk" cannot be "elegant" - that is the point of the game and weird fantasy. So, what do you consider to be 'elegant' and why is that important to your planned show? That is along show for any one person to sustain interest and astonishment. Who is your audience and their expectations as to magic. You might be able to entertain folks for that long with mix of presentations, but "magic" requires a continuous cycle of anticipation and surprise (tention and release). What else do you plan on doing besides magic effects?
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Tim Snyder Regular user Chicago, IL 112 Posts |
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On Nov 6, 2021, jojo4133 wrote: I think David Copperfield's show is 90 Minutes and Mac King's is 70 minutes. Your post comes across as someone trying to be funny, but as you see most of the magicians here treat people with respect. Although, there are some who would not mince words about how amateur your posts sound. Don't be offended, there is very little bad advice here. If this isn't a joke and you are serious, I would not do more than 90 minutes. It is better to leave the audience wanting more than having to worry about them becoming restless. If this is a paid gig, isn't better to work less for the same amount of money? Not mention the cost of the extra tricks you would need, as well as all of the hours spent practicing the new tricks. The best way to find ideas for new tricks is to just browse this forum. Watch magicians on the tube. Look through an old library book. Use the search engine on the forum if you have something specific in mind. If you are going for a long show, use volunteers. This interaction can be interesting and will help you fill minutes. Good luck! I hope able to develop a great show. |
Fedora Special user Arizona, usa 746 Posts |
Jojo, if You're performing a parlor show 2 hours would be quite long,
a parlor show is usually 30 minutes to an hour or so depending on the audience. A small stage show for an award banquet might run 45 to 75 minutes, Useally an hour. An evening show in a theater might run that long tho, but usually that is A theater you rent and have a full production, uncommon for a solo perfomer. I suggest focusing on the lower side of whatever venue or market You're targeting and expand from there. |
Fedora Special user Arizona, usa 746 Posts |
Everything I just wrote is moot if You're in a verity performance
and only a piece of the 2 hours. |
jojo4133 New user 3 Posts |
Hello everyone, thank you very much for the honest feedback. Sorry for not being so clear (it's very difficult). the duration of the show includes a break. I absolutely agree with the duration of about 90 minutes. until now I was just a magician. But now I want to take another step in the direction of professionalism and am also looking for a personality that I want to be on stage. and yes, I mean it;) I have been doing magic since I was 11 years old and am now 21. I'm happy for every feedback and every tip you can give me. because we all know you never stop learning.
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gowenmagic New user 92 Posts |
So, no one is going to just give you the goods. Anything anyone is willing to tell you will be pretty generic stuff most Magicians do, the classics, they work and are great, nothing wrong with them. To find the really good stuff you have to start some hardcore researching. This isn't just books/ forums trying to find tricks, you need to learn how to write and stage craft as well. If you start now and give it your all, you're 8-10 years out from a really really solid stage show. Best of luck.
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Dave Scribner Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 4849 Posts |
JoJo, if 90 minutes includes a break, I'm assuming it would run 60 minutes a break and then a final 30 minutes. The first half of your show is going to have to be super strong in order to get your audience back for the final set. You said you were doing a parlor show but then said it was underlaid with music. It's going to be very hard to keep a parlor audience entertained and interested with a music background. A trick or two with a music background would work depending on the presentation but not the entire show. Parlor means interaction with the audience.
You listed 3 effects in your opening post. Is that all you have? It would still help if we knew what you were aiming for. Mentalism, magic, comedy for example. There's 1000's of effects out there so it's difficult to make suggestions without a direction.
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Fedora Special user Arizona, usa 746 Posts |
Jojo, here is a recommendation,
Tsa by adam wilber, it is quite visible in a parlor environment. there is several versions of this same concept, It goes back to tommy wonder if I'm not mistaken. |
gregg webb Inner circle 1564 Posts |
Put one effect in the middle that uses a stooge. Well, that takes care of that slot. Think about what you are good at. Cards, coins, box tricks, silk tricks, ropes, what? The thing is, audiences respond to seeing an expert which comes across by the smoothness, the confidence etc. Don't put new stuff in. One has to live with a trick for years sometimes to get the feel. Meditate on what you know already and pick the stuff that YOU like and the audience will sense your connection to that piece or other. Meditate on the show. Visualization means to see yourself doing various tricks you know and decide if you think it would work. Then move on to another piece, etc. until you have it. It will come from within you.
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