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Lou Hilario
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I plan to do a mask change with about four thin masks stacked on my face. The problem is how to release the masks one at a time. Can anyone give me an idea or suggestion how to do so. I am thinking of making a release via biting it with notches attached to each mask. Is this the right thing? Thanks.
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I came up with a method similar to this lou, why not have a small protrusion from the mouth of each mask, to the inside that you can bite, then on the next mask move the protrusion over a little bit and so on, then you can release each mask at a time,

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The mask idea is a good one and the suggstions mentioned could work nicely. Just make sure that if your doing masks, that you change the routine and the performance enough so that your act does not look like or represent that of McBrides. be different and unique.

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Mc bride will hate you forever if you even don a mask. which is all the more reason to do it. jeff did not invent mask magic. that would be like channning getting mad at you for making a dove appear.
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Farrell:

I totally disagree with you. Jeff is a wobdreful man and creator and teacher of magic. Not only would he not get mad, he would probably show you 15 different ways to use masks. Jeff is just that kind of guy.

My point is that masks are so accustomed to his act that people and laypeople, associate him to the masks. This is just the way it is. So if your going to use them, make sure to use them in a new creative way so you do not get stereotpyed as being a McBride wanna-bee. Be unique and creative and be the best YOU can be.

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I agree totally. Farrell, have you actually met the man? Kyle's description is dead on, and his statements on originality are, as always, correct. So don't go bashing people you don't know.
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Jeff has been the most giving guy I have ever met in my entire life. He shares more magic with more people then any magician I have ever come across. He is extremely creative and people could learn a ton from him.

Getting back to the original question though, you can certainly do masks. I am just stating that if your going to do them, you really will need to do them in a way that is totally new and different to the way that McBride does them.

The fact is that people know Jeff from the masks and that ia a very big part of who Jeff is on stage. no he does not own the mask concept at all and others cando it. The problem is that a magician becomes so well known for a certain effect or image, that if anyone uses it, it often gets hard to get the audience to go away from associating that with someone else.

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Shimada did the mask effect before McBride and isn't it interesting that Luna Shimada dated and performed with Jeff for awhile until the split?

McBride didn't create the effect and I don't think Juliana Chen would mind either as long as your act was unique?

I agree that Jeff wouldn't mind either based upon my interaction with him?
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Just make it unique to you and make it different.

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JEff would say go to master class... don't lie to yourself. I have met the man and know exactly what he would say. and ask ayala if jeff didn't get mad at him for the masks.
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I've taken a seminar with Jeff McBride and he is a very warm and generous person. I think that if a mask act was unique and not a copy of his, he'd be very supportive. Bottom line is a prop alone whether it be a mask or wand doesn't make a great magic act. It's the performer and the presentation of the material together that makes something memorable.
The idea of the mouth stem inside the mask is a good one and I believe some Japanese Noh mask are made this way. In any case, best wishes on your routine!
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The problem is that people not only use the mask but they do the exact same moves, styles and presentation as Jeff uses in his own act. That is what Jeff objects to. Use the mask idea if you want, but strive to do it differently and make it your own.

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Ayala was doing magic with Masks when he was a small boy in Mexico City D.F. in Mexico. He used to go around town and ask people if he can perform his mask act in their show. I believe he was about 12 years old.

In the U.S.A. McBride is know for his mask act but Ayala might have been doing his act before Jeff.

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Are any of Ayala's mask performances available on video or DVD? I didn't see any offered on his website but the masks he's selling are gorgeous!
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Ayala is one of the best performers I've ever seen be it magic or music or anything he is absolutely amazing.he has so much energy and is so powerful. he has the presence onstage that few performers can duplicate.he is deffinetly one of the best!
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I once spoke to Jeff for about 45 seconds. I therefore consider us to be best of friends and so of course I know exactly how he feels about this mask thing.

Feel free to PM me for Jeff's opinions on this or any other matter.
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Brad,
You have a good point. But...since you brought it up, how exactly DOES Jeff feel about Ayala and the mask thing? Many of us would like to know. Smile
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It was suppose to be a discusion on mask release not McBride or Ayala. Any advise on releases?
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In some Japanese mask dances, the mask is made with a mouth grip, although in the dances I've seen they don't stack the masks on top if each other. Rather, an assistant is responsible for holding the other masks and hands off and receives the approprite mask for the performer as he is playing different characters. Still, it seems like a smaller mouth stem could be designed to accomodate a thinner mask to be used for magical purposes. Smile
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