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dirtyfoucault Special user UK 700 Posts 
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The main moral of this thread seems to be: every performer (and audience to some extent) is different and rightly makes different performance choices based on who they are and the situations they find themselves in.
Trying to assess something like Quantum in a general 'one-size-fits-all' way is part of the problem. The issue of examinability isn't really even about Quantum. It's a more general issue about what's right for you and the decisions you make as a performer. (It might not make sense to let spectators see cards if, for example, your persona is high status and letting them do so might risk denting this impression). |
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maklakmak Regular user 128 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2022, Gaz Lawrence wrote: Funny you should say that, one of mine (quite non controversial) vanished yesterday as did someone else's which immediately preceded it it. |
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videoman Inner circle 6750 Posts
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It’s funny that about every 5 pages the posts and opinions just begin repeating themselves all over again as newcomers join in the mix.
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dirtyfoucault Special user UK 700 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2022, videoman wrote: Isn't that all of magic in a nutshell? |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1670 Posts
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Any particular work of Eric Mead that you would recommend on this topic? His book Tangled Web. Some of his online videos also touch on his theoretical approach. This one is a good starting point: Getting this back on track, I think the emphasis on the cards being examinable was justifiable in the case of QD because it does, at least in my view, enhance the overall effect. |
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DaphneFairfax New user 26 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2022, Kong wrote: My point is no review show is 100% honest 100% of the time because they have skin in the game or show respect to friends. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts
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See you at Blackpool Gaz.😊
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timtam New user 41 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2022, Gaz Lawrence wrote: Meaning it means nothing as its not a proper test. |
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AutarchicFlux Special user 587 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2022, timtam wrote: Still no idea what you're on about |
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Kong Regular user Cymru 149 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2022, DaphneFairfax wrote: If nepotism creeps in causing retailers such as Propdog to go easy on creators then punters will lose faith and walk away. It would be extremely bad for the industry. Look, Alex (from Propdog) praised the trick. He only raised ONE criticism in an extremely polite and mature way. He didn't rant and rave or scream and shout - he simply raised ONE issue he had with the trailer, and the fact that he felt so reluctant to even do that shows you how unhealthy the situation is. I've seen other creators cop far more flack in "honest reviews" and "honest trailer" type videos and they seem to be able to handle it like grownups. Should it be one rule for some and a different rule for others? |
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1855 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2022, tenchu wrote: Close enough but I knew this already. The QD is the type of effect that won't draw CLOSE ENOUGH scrutiny of the cards. 
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1855 Posts
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Could ten more people quote long *** replies without editing them shorter, please? Thank You!
 Quoting two double *** long replies is a bonus! 😆
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1855 Posts
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Craig, you have made one of the greatest come backs in magic for someone who has at one time "left magic" so to speak. You are brilliant, mate! CONGRATULATIONS on Quantum Deck and keep pouring out the great magic and viewable content like taps in a tavern. 👍
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1855 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2022, tomdeg wrote: I bet you take advantage of moving along and keep the magic come'n! 👍 Funny thing is that a major force of entertainment comes from us NOT proving anything to our audience and let them continue to think and guess and second guess. 😆👍
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1855 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2022, martyjacobs wrote: No, that's thinking like a beginner magician who hasn't become confident in his performance. 😉 If you are letting them handle the cards as part of the effect then that is good but taking a time out so that they can inspect the cards is a waste of some great performance time. Unless you are using it as a distraction to ring in a new prop, etc. 👍
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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BathTub Regular user Wellington, NZ 102 Posts
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I ordered from Penguin only a couple days ago, but I did message and ask if they had any left, and just got notice today that my shipping label was made. So fingers crossed.
Nigel McNaughton aka 'BathTub'
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DocBenWiz Special user Meridian, Idaho 991 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2022, tomdeg wrote: Exactly....how many of you stuff the little hanky in your fist,...show it vanished,...then say and offer..."Here check my thumbs!"....Imho....90% of this entire thread has been a wasteful self- mastur!$@[!*n...negative and meaningless! Congrats to Craig and thanks for all his creative efforts!!  
"Pay no attention to that strange man behind the curtain" (it's only "Doc Benjamin from the Amazing Wizardelia Wagon")
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts
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On Feb 14, 2022, EZrhythm wrote: Exactly. Doric got the message so hopefully others will too. Those replies deserve to be deleted imo. EDIT QUOTES BEFORE POSTING. THANKS. |
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juggler357 New user AUS 83 Posts
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I love coming onto the Magic Café to find other magicians' ideas and thoughts. What I don't like is the negativity that rises so quickly. It would be good to consider the mental health and well-being of creators and guests in the Café so that it is a safe place for all the artists. A few lines of text can destroy someone's state. Ironically some of the people who make a living or hobby out of deceiving people are upset that a magic trailer deceived them.
Once is entertainment, twice is education.
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darrylrose New user 52 Posts
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This is a great effect. Direct and magical. Performance and audience control is the key…well done Craig.
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