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Alex DLF
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I'll try to publish my review on this product, it's quite hard as a reviewer because this is not like any other trick, it has been overly promoted and I think the ad copy can mislead people in some way Smile
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On Feb 17, 2022, Alex DLF wrote:
I'll try to publish my review on this product, it's quite hard as a reviewer because this is not like any other trick, it has been overly promoted and I think the ad copy can mislead people in some way Smile


It's a hyped release for sure, but I think that's because it's good - look how many pages of comments there are. Having bought this, I'm not worried about the ad copy or fooling magicians. I hope that reviews are reviewing the effect and not the marketing or ad copy.

Do your thing, but I'd like to know if you'd never seen this thread or the marketing and received this in the mail out of the blue, would you think that it a good effect, is it easy to do, is it good value for money, is it durable etc.

In my very humble opinion, this is what makes a useful review.
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On Feb 17, 2022, Alex DLF wrote:
I'll try to publish my review on this product, it's quite hard as a reviewer because this is not like any other trick, it has been overly promoted and I think the ad copy can mislead people in some way Smile


The ad copy has been discussed to death, Alex. Every argument has been made. Please don't go there AGAIN. Just give us your thoughts on the product, please.
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Yes please. No more nonsense about the ad copy being "deceptive." It wasn't. If you want to review the trick, just review the trick.
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Now, you should realize that employing this "move" would allow you to achieve the QD effect with a regular, ungimmicked blank deck.


Yeah, this is essentially the same method Barry Richarson and Bill Goldman have explored in the past. I've performed "Boomerang" by Bill for years. It is a potent prediction trick with excellent built-in misdirection. It works better as an impossible prediction, but the handling is a suitable alternative method for the QD if you need to repeat the trick without the gaffed deck. For those who have "Boomerang", you can use the same excuse to make the move, even though the cards have no faces or backs. It will play as a silly joke, the type of thing Bill often includes in his write-ups (one of the reasons I love his presentations).

Despite the contradictory ad copy, misleading aspects of the trailer, and the silly situation with Luke Dancey, this is an excellent trick! I also wouldn't single QD out as an unusual example. Loads of tricks use much more questionable marketing tactics (imagine how Ellusionist would have marketed this for Craig?! I'd love to see that trailer!). For some reason, QD is getting more attention than other releases, possibly because of Craig's Magic TV Channel on YT, or maybe because of this thread! That's the unusual aspect of this situation.

As Dan suggests, I think it best we concentrate on the trick itself now and not the surrounding nonsense! Best for everyone involved.
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Agreed... No more marketing debate. Just review the magic and the teaching tutorial(s).

Some of you just can't help exposing the method... or can you?

Some of the posts seem intentionally posted only to promote and boost one's ego and for some, to possibly discourage sales.
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On Feb 17, 2022, Rory111 wrote:
Some of you just can't help exposing the method... or can you?

I agree, the mods need to clean up this thread
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I'm sorry. I think this is one of the most useful threads about a product that I've ever read. Good. Bad. Ugly. But thorough and useful. I can see some deletions (I can agree and disagree with specific issues) but overall? Find me another product that has endured such immediate and broad band scrutiny that ends up in me thinking: excellent product Mr. Petty ; excellent responses by the producer (Craig Petty); excellent "heads up" about availability because I think I may have gotten the last available deck on Penguin! SHIPPED.

On the emotional front? Big hug to Mr. Petty. He's a human. A magician. A creator. A father. Those are all good things.

For the record? Product. Bought. If I'm dissatisfied I'll weigh in.
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On Feb 11, 2022, chrismatt wrote:
Why not simply use the method employed by Max Maven in his "Pocket Nightmare" effect to force and make the card disappear from the deck? An easy way would be to use just one of the gaffed cards used in that trick inserted into a regular deck and Peek Force it, perhaps with a corner short card in front of it.


I do typically use a corner short card as a force card. This allows me to hand out the deck for them to shuffle in advance of, or after forcing the card. If I can't use a corner short card, such as in any more impromptu setting, I'll use a crimp.
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My only personal down side of this trick is the memorization/calculation of several things during this trick. that's also just because I do magic for a hobby and only perform casually. To really get this smooth, I think beside practicing, you should also perfom this on a regular base. If that is not the case, in my case the risk is I won't pick this trick to perform, just because I forget the method and first need to do a recap. So in that sense it will not be an always easy to do trick for me at least, with the risk ending in the drawer and choosing a more easier trick or simplier method like Boomerang. But that is just my only person problem with it. Trick itself is great and all the video's you get are great as well.
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Want to give a thumbs down to Alakazam. I ordered Quantum Deck immediately upon receiving the email from Alakazam advertising it. There was no indication when I ordered it that it was sold out, or that it was backordered - just a statement that the effect would be released Feb 14. Just checked my account, and it still shows "On Order." This is the third time that this has happened to me on orders with Alakazam. Guess I should have ordered it from Penguin. Will certainly do so with orders in the future.....
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Iím with Craig now at Blackpool and not only have I seen this performed live I have also handled the deck.
The combination of the deck and the genius thinking in using blanks completely nullifies similar problems with other applications of the core principle used.
I can do the effect immediately with Craigs deck that he has been performing with all day.
The maths is as simple as 123 and the handling you canít fail with due to as I say the killer combination of principles.
I can guarantee itís examinable all day long to any layman on the planet if you felt the need.
Itís absolutely superb Gaz 😊
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On Feb 17, 2022, rosariorose9 wrote:
Want to give a thumbs down to Alakazam. I ordered Quantum Deck immediately upon receiving the email from Alakazam advertising it. There was no indication when I ordered it that it was sold out, or that it was backordered - just a statement that the effect would be released Feb 14. Just checked my account, and it still shows "On Order." This is the third time that this has happened to me on orders with Alakazam. Guess I should have ordered it from Penguin. Will certainly do so with orders in the future.....


Same thing with Vanishing Inc , missed the first run by 5 minutes didnít have the professionalism to tell me.
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Yes please. No more nonsense about the ad copy being "deceptive." It wasn't. If you want to review the trick, just review the trick.


Amen
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This kind of sucks. Why all the exposure. Nobody cares if you know how itís done. Iíll tell you the truth now. You get a blank deck. You get an extra deck that was sent to Santa and he made it magical. It puts it in the quantum state. This is what I want to think. This is magic. Please stop hinting at methods. What ever happened to secrets. I donít know maybe itís just me. I havenít been in magic too long but before I was I imagined it to be a super tight secret society where everyone loves and respects each other. Canít we have that? Why not?
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I love secrets in magic but if you know just a grain about magic this can only work in two ways. A gimmicked deck or sleight of hand as we are dealing with one printed card and a truly double blank deck.
So I donít think exposure has been an issue here people just want to know is this practical does it work in the real world and is it examinable to a layman.
To me this is all those and more and even a magician will probably only know because these are the only two ways to achieve this miracle and itís through obvious magician thinking and not through the sense of touch. Thatís the truth, donít be on the fence if you love the idea and basic effect alone you will really love this
Gaz.😊
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On Feb 17, 2022, rosariorose9 wrote:
Want to give a thumbs down to Alakazam. I ordered Quantum Deck immediately upon receiving the email from Alakazam advertising it. There was no indication when I ordered it that it was sold out, or that it was backordered - just a statement that the effect would be released Feb 14. Just checked my account, and it still shows "On Order." This is the third time that this has happened to me on orders with Alakazam. Guess I should have ordered it from Penguin. Will certainly do so with orders in the future.....


Same thing with Vanishing Inc , missed the first run by 5 minutes didnít have the professionalism to tell me.


Its seems none of them are capable of properly doing a presale...i had the problem with Penguin and Orphic Wallet. It was "in stock" when I ordered. then 3 days after the release date it still hadnt shipped so I contacted them and they told me I had to wait for the next shipment because I had actually missed on this one. They never contacted me to tell me - they were just gonna let me wait until May or something. I cancelled and luckily Hocus Pocus still had a few in stock.
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On Feb 17, 2022, rosariorose9 wrote:
Want to give a thumbs down to Alakazam. I ordered Quantum Deck immediately upon receiving the email from Alakazam advertising it. There was no indication when I ordered it that it was sold out, or that it was backordered - just a statement that the effect would be released Feb 14. Just checked my account, and it still shows "On Order." This is the third time that this has happened to me on orders with Alakazam. Guess I should have ordered it from Penguin. Will certainly do so with orders in the future.....


I am sorry this happened with your order. They have lost more than one customer over this issue.
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Same thing with Vanishing Inc , missed the first run by 5 minutes didnít have the professionalism to tell me.


Another company that lacks quality customer service. I no longer shop with them either.
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On Feb 17, 2022, Deckhead wrote:
This kind of sucks. Why all the exposure. Nobody cares if you know how itís done. Iíll tell you the truth now. You get a blank deck. You get an extra deck that was sent to Santa and he made it magical. It puts it in the quantum state. This is what I want to think. This is magic. Please stop hinting at methods. What ever happened to secrets. I donít know maybe itís just me. I havenít been in magic too long but before I was I imagined it to be a super tight secret society where everyone loves and respects each other. Canít we have that? Why not?


Yes, we can have that as soon as all of the magicians disappear who have their creations made in China and stop buying creations from China. Get everything locally made and produced as before and that will be a good start. Oh I know it isn't going to happen but at least we know what it will take. 👍
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