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DanielLove
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Will have to look into that, sounds interesting.
Thanks
Mel Toyer
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Stanton Carlisles' 'Mentalism Supreme' Also has a section on hypnotising all kinds of animals.

Mel

Sorry, my mistake.

Stanton's 'Mentalism For Connoisseurs'
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I put a rat into a state of trance at the local pet shop, it was looking straight at me through the glass, I fixed my gaze on it and I took my index finger and drew a vertical line, from top to bottom, right in front of its face, from above its eyeline to below its jaw, I repeated this about 10-15 times, very slowly. The rats eyes just glazed over and fixated on a point about 2 inches in front of it and its breathing slowed right down. it was well cool and totaly weird.
I knocked on the glass, but it was out cold!
I just walked off and left it to come to all by itself.
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When I was a kid, I used to hypnotize chickens and doves.....just put their head under their wing and hold them there for a minute. Also, you can hypnotize lizards by laying them on their back on the palm of your hand and then with your other hand, rub their belly and they will stay frozen on your hand. You can then set them on a table, etc. and they will stay that way for a little while. Anyone have any other methods?
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The hardest part is presenting suggestions,hehehehehhehe
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Ok let me jump in and just say for the record here.

I know people used to claim to hypnotise alligators as well. EVERY show in Florida used to showcase this phenenomenon.

Problem is it actually was quite unhealthy for the animal. Currently 0 shows showcase this ability any more.

Most forms of animal hypnotism cause some sort of problem for the animal. The rabbit actually experiences a serious amount of fear when on his back and so forth.

I am not saying it is right or wrong mind you, just that to be cruel to animals for our own enjoyment is not really cool to me. Many of us don't know this so I am simply mentioning it. Do what you will with the information.

Oh and anyone wishing to train in hypnosis in my opinion should have more than just one book on the subject. I know what you mean by "if you can only have one book". But expand to at least 5.
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This may seem strange to some, but I agree 100% with Danny on this one. Well said!

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On 2004-06-25 08:20, DanielLove wrote:
Has anyone tried the Chicken or Rabbit hypnosis methods?


I didn't know a chicken or rabbit could hypnotize anyone... Smile

(Although most waterfowl are good at in-duck-tion)

Sorry. Long day.
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Has anyone tried this on a lame horse? It seems if you found a way to get horse active again you could be famous. My cousin has a horse who was great then went lame, later caught a diesease and has 90 pills every week. Just a thought, if you know anything about horse then you probably know my lameness is cased etc...

A note when flipping a bird on its back, I have heard stories of birds who "never woke up" whether they or true or not I do not know.
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Why should someone hypnotize an animal? for entertainment reasons? it sounds cruel and stupid, IMO. I can't think of any other reason. Go feed them, and leave these poor creatures alone.
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I am SO glad you agree with Tony and myslef. Welcome to outcast island
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Yes, it is a small island, but the we all get along. Smile

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On 2004-06-29 15:45, hmk wrote:
Joking aside, one of the most interesting of these kinds of books is the almost impossible to find animal hypnotism by André Weitzenhoffer, an expert in his field with a colourful background during the cold war period. You name it; he hypnotizes it in this book. Also not the usual drawings but photographs of some of his subjects 'under’ in the zoo. Some of his other works are very highly regarded in the field.
Best regards,
hmk


Actually Animal Hypnotism was by Volgeyesi (spelling may be in error) but not Weitzenhoffer, who authored the classic General Techniques of Hypnotism.

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Lee Darrow is right. Not Weitzenhoffer but Andras Volgyesi - Animal Hypnosis

I have the book in my collection/study library and it's a great book.
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And, to note both Volgyesi and other sources, several animals, including rabbits, doves and crawfish all enter a stuporous state, not a panic state when they are supposedly "hypnotized." The physiology belies the statements made by some members. Sorry guys.

However, other critters do become agitated, however, in general tonic immobility involves a freeze response that literally causes the creature's systems to slow down after an initial adrenaline spike. One reason for the torpor is so that the animal's heartbeat will not be heard by prowling predators as easily, is the general surmise. This is why, when a deer that was caught in the headlights suddenly finds the lights turned off does not do a "panic run" away, but wanders off in an almost caml manner.

Google on "tonic immobility" for more information.

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Lee having lived in Florida the center for Aligator shows trust me flip one over and start rubbing, your hurting the animal. NO shows do it any more.

MANY animals are the same way.
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Like I said, for some animals, this is the case, not all. And I dispute your claim on many. Can you show me the research? I gave you a Google term to look up that supports my position more than yours.

No offense.

The big problem with the alligator wrasslin' isn't so much the effects of the inducing the tonic immobility, but the lead up TO it! You have to wrestly the critter putting both the wrestler AND the critter at SERIOUS risk. And the insurance companies do NOT like risk. I asked around and that seems to be the main reason why they don't do that stunt any more - the insurance companies put the kibosh on it because too many PEOPLE got hurt doing it and too many animals got hurt during the WRESTLING part. The 'Gators that they used to use for these demonstrations were rather BIG and QUITE STRONG. Someone being hurt by one happened a lot. Hence, the insurance cmpanies pulled the plug to save money. A no-brainer from their standpoint.

The tonic immobility that is induced actually slows down literally ALL of the critter's autonomic systems, which is not damaging to the animal at all, unlike the use of a chemical tranquilizer. It is, quite literally, an induced torpor, according to the sources that I have found so far.

If you find other sources that disagree, please post the links, I'm very interested in this behavioral pattern.

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Volgyesi, Ferenc Andras: "Animal Hypnosis," 1968: it’s a good source on Hypnosis of Man and Animals with special reference to the development of the brain in the species and in the individual.

Thank you,
Prof. JW:)
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