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I'm working on getting my system set up. I'm going to get all the music and sound effects done on my desktop, then burn it to a cd for use in a laptop (hope to have one soon). Question: How do I record my voice over music into my hard drive so that I can ultimately burn it to a cd? I have the music cd and microphone, but can't figure out how to record this into the hard drive. Is it possible to do this?

I think I figured it out. I downloaded the following audio mixer

http://www.audiotoolsdirect.com/Music_Creation/

I'm just starting to fool around with it. It seems to do just what I wanted. Pretty cool stuff!
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Hi Paul:

I use Goldwave Sound Editing software. Its available at http://www.goldwave.com if that doesn't work out for you. It is easy with goldwave as you just select which track to record to and record. I always record on the left (top track) and paste the music into the right (bottom track).

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Paul G,

It is possible to record your voice into a harddrive. Windows has a "Sound Recorder" program in the Accessories Folder- Entertainment Subfolder. It will let you record voice as a wave file, you then need to convert wave to MP3. Go to Jeff Haas site he has a link to a convertor software.

You also have to mess with the "Volume Control" too, found in the Accessories folder. Sometimes Microphone is on MUTE. Make sure you have a decent microphone hooked up to your computer. The microphones that come with computers pretty much suck and sound horrible.

G0THIKE

Paul,

GO HERE:

http://home.earthlink.net/~krubowc4/Downloads.htm

Keith Rubow who sells the remote I use has a link to DbpowerAmp and a MP3Cut software to edit MP3's.

Check it out they are FREE.

G0THIKE
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On 2005-05-26 22:33, MagicalPirate wrote:
Just letting everyone in on one thing I discovered with this system. It works great for music but be prepared for voice overs. I mixed the Twilight Zone Theme with a voice over and when I played it back (first time during a show) all I got was the voice over. It would appear that using a mini plug to 1/4" plug doesn't bring in both tracks. I'm guessing I will have to get one of those mini plug to y adapter 1/4" and attach it to one of my left and right channels on my mixer. It kind of messed of my intro but I survived and my first Hypnosis Show was still a smashing success. Actually it was my fault as I should never have put something new in a show that wasn't rehearsed before. However, nothing was rehearsed in this and it still knocked 'em dead:>)

Martin Smile


I use a program called ripeditburn at blazeaudio.com

It allows you to rip cdcs and edit them then save the file. They also have another app that lets you add tracks. So you can do a voice over fairly easy and save the file.

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Don't know if this applies here, but I've been dragging two iPods to each performance. One is mine, the other is my wife's iPod mini, onto which I've loaded an identical playlist. Way I see it, if an iPod will fail 1/100 times, then two iPods will both fail 1/10,000 times. Not bad odds. This is, of course, only a "poor man's" solution if you already have two iPods handy.

I've found that the RemoteRemote2 works wonderfully. I get around the range problem by timing my routines so I'm close to the iPod when I change tracks (which I have to be anyway, since it's also my "applause area"). It fits perfectly in my the tiny additional front pocket of my slax (I think it's for keys) so I can trigger it by raising my hand to my waist or by keeping my hand on my hips. Fade-to-pause hasn't been necessary, since each track change occurs during applause. Thanks to the 20-minute silent track between each song, the iPod never sleeps and changes quickly.

I've actually found AirClick somewhat harder to use. It's not as responsive as the RemoteRemote2, and the range is about the same.
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Soundforge is another great sound editing program. I find it to be very user friendly and easy to use.
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I'd like to buy an RF remote to work my laptop. I'm currently using winamp as suggested in this form with an IR remote. Does the Airclick RF remote work with Winamp?

Thank You

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Nope, the Airclick doesn't work with WinAmp yet. They need to update the software first.
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I have a question about recording sounds into the sound recorder. I want to put the “vanishing bandana” routine into my Winamp playlist but the sound recorder will only record a 60sec. clip. I recorded it in 3 sections and then pasted them together but the sound quality suffered. Lots of hiss and other static kind of sounds between the breaks. Is there a way to increase the length of the sound that the sound recorder will capture? Three minutes would do the trick.

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You can get Audacity for free to record and edit.
Go here:
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Maybe someone can help me with this one. I cannot locate any remotes like you are talking about the are inexpensive. What exactly is the name of the remote.
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Folks,

I have been slacking off, actually going to school, performing some shows, thank god.

Here is a little goodie:

http://www.ysgyfarnog.co.uk/utilities/winampremote/

It allows WINAMP to be controlled with the Griffin Technologies Air Click USB
remote. It works.


Another software for cell phone, pda thru bluetooth control is available at:
http://www.salling.com/

I tested it on my Palm Treo 650 and it works. It also supports PC and Mac.

G0THIKE
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HOW TO GET YOUR IPOD TO CROSSFADE BETWEEN SONGS

Hey people,

It’s been a while since I reported any findings, I have noticed the threads on IPODs and people spending extra cash for a fade with a remote control and some MP3 player.

Anyhow, here is some interesting info for some daring IPOD users.

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox
or
http://www.rockbox.org


It’s an Operating System that you can install on your IPOD that will allow it to fade- cross fade between songs. It is a IPOD hack, so it will Void the warranty, but you can also just reformat the IPOD if it gets stuck and all is well.

I wish I owned an IPOD and could try it out.

Someone with some tech experience can maybe try it out for us and see how well it works, and if you can use the Ijet or Airclick RF remotes with that OS IPOD software.

More info can be found in the http://www.ipodwizard.net forum, or by searching on yahoo or Google.

It might be the HOLY GRAIL and answer for us.



IJET TWO WAY REMOTE WITH LCD SCREEN


This remote control almost made me buy an IPOD, just read about. It has an LCD screen built into the remote that displays playlist info.

Rumor has it the IJET has a better range than the Airclick.

http://www.abtech2.com/twowayRemote.htm
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The iJet Two-Way Remote works like a dream...however, the base attachment blocks access to the earphone jack. This means you can't plug the Nano directly into your sound system without a docking station. I use a Nano in my shows...so that is a major mobility and ease-of-use issue for me.

The newer iJet RF Remote for the Nano ( http://www.theistore.com/ijetnano.html ) is a self-contained clear case for the Nano with EASY access to the earplug jack. It also has a pass-thru feature so that it can be used on a docking station if preferred. The clear case protects the Nano. The postage stamp size remote fits magnetically onto the back of the case, so it's hard to lose.
The remote function works beautifully with the very rare dead spot issue. I used it the other day on stage. The sound booth was in front of the stage at a little over 100 feet back along the far wall. All I need is my Nano, a 1/4 in. to stereo RCA plug adapter, and I'm ready to rock. At $55 - $60, it's a dream.

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I just found this plug-in for Winamp that allows you to use Winamp to load songs onto the iPod, as well as normalize the volume of all tracks using another utility:

http://www.mlipod.com/index.php

And, I'm finally getting around to updating my website that goes into detail about using a laptop for sound cues. There are some neat new pieces of software out there that allow you to do some fun stuff in a bigger show.

Jeff
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I tried out the Winamp plugin for the Airclick. This fixes the problem the Airclick had with Winamp...there was no way to configure it to work with anything other than iTunes, Powerpoint, or Windows Media Player.

Once you start it, it will work similar to the iPod solutions people have mentioned, but you don't need the silent track if you don't want it.

Play/Pause button. This starts or stops a track.
Next/Forward button. Goes to the next track.
Previous/Rewind button. Goes back one track.
Volume Up and Down buttons work as you'd expect.

You can configure Winamp to stop playing a track and fade it out, instead of just cutting it off. Open the Preferences (Ctrl - P) and select "Output" under "Plugins." Then, highlight "Direct Sound Output" and click the Configure button. Click the Fading tab in the popup window. Highlight "on pause/stop" and check the "Enabled" box. Then check the "Use custom fade time" box, because the default fade time is way too short. Try setting it to 1000 milliseconds and see how you like it; 1500 may be a bit better.

The other option to set in Winamp is the "Manual playlist advance." Usually, you load up Winamp with a set of tracks you want to listen to, hit Play, and it goes through them. However, in our case, we usually want to play one track and then have Winamp stop and wait for us to start the next track. So, open the Preferences, highlight "Playlist" (near the top of the Preferences) and look for "Manual Playlist Advance" and check the box. Now, when a song gets to the end, Winamp will stop and not go to the next song. To trigger the next cue, hit the Next/Forward button and the Play button.

You can also interrupt a song that's playing and jump to the start of the next one, just hit the Next button.

So, this plug-in for the Airclick and Winamp works similar to the remote I use. The main differences are that you can't redefine the buttons and the Airclick is a bit cheap...it only works up to about 60 feet (the KeyRF goes much farther and has an antenna on the receiver that you can extend), and sometimes I find that the button presses just don't get recognized. The other thing is that the plugin doesn't move the highlight bar in Winamp, so you can't easily tell at a distance what track is playing.

Jeff
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Greetings,

I actually bought a IPOD, it was used and on sale at a great price.

So far I have hacked the boot loader and I have installed IPOD Linux, Rockbox and I am working on modding the Apple firmware.

Rockbox has crossfade and more advanced audio settings but it does not support remote control yet via the bottom dock. Since Rockbox is open source, I hope someone will work on it.

If only the Apple OS could be fully hacked.

So it is possible for the IPOD to crossfade but you have to use a different operating system.

I will have more info as I find things.

G0THIKE
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What does "crossfade" mean? Is that the same as fading out?
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A poor man's remote sound cue is also known as a "girlfriend".

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Crossfading definition on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fade_%28audio_engineering%29
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