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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
This one really caught my eye.
Here you have a full color changing deck, from red to blue, advertised as using NO gimmicks, No switches, and everything (The entire deck) being fully examinable by the spectator immediately after the performance, and THEN, to boot, the reset supposedly taking only three seconds. Fellas, this sounds too (I know, we've heard it before) good to be true. I saw the demo on Penguin, and am smoked. Any body got the scoop on this?
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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JJP161 Special user Columbus, Ohio 509 Posts |
Hey Daffydoug thanks for the heads up that looks absolutely incredible. At 9.95 it would be hard to go wrong but it definitely sounds too good to be true. I may break down and get this if so I'll let you know how it is.
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loowhochan Regular user Toronto, Canada 116 Posts |
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MagicCarisio Inner circle 1061 Posts |
Daffy! thanks beaucoup, for telling us about this miracle!
It's on my next buy list. Gerard |
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thumbslinger Elite user This is a good number: 458 Posts |
I went ahead and got this one. It's great. No gimmicks, no gaffs and you can end clean in a couple of different ways.
Alternate handling tips are at the forum for this effect when purchased, including one by Sam that makes an already pretty easy effect even easier to do. It's what a 'secret' should cost. You learn a color-change and a handling so you get more than just the specific effect of Nemisis. Some have used blank cards instead of making them change color and that's a real freak! Gotta be a way to segue into Blizzard! ps...yeah NO deck switch and the reset is that fast...
Chet Atkins, Jerry Reed and Tommy Emmanuel are all you need to study to learn to play guitar.
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Wow! I'm turning on fellas to this effect before I myself even purchase it! That's a switch!
Actually, my post was just an inquiry as to the veracity of the advertising! I can't vouch for this effect yet, because I have never purchased.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Rcitgo Special user Emporia,Va. 738 Posts |
I just got it and I like it.The best part I like is there's really no deck switch and you use normal cards!Excellent.
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
I'm salivating!
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Josho Special user Albany, New York 758 Posts |
I'm very interested in this effect, but not interested in the slightest in anything that requires a computer to access. Does anyone know if this effect is going to appear in print, or in DVD format?
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doowopper Elite user 492 Posts |
It's strong. I highly recommend it.
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joeKing Special user United States 979 Posts |
Josho- Don't count on this coming out in any other type of print...Just buy the Instant Download. Penguin is very good with customer service and make sure that you can get the video running to view. All you need is either Windows Media Player or Quicktime.
~joeKing
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Josho Special user Albany, New York 758 Posts |
Hi, JoeKing,
It's not a matter of my worrying that I won't be able to get the video running today. There is positively no better a way to ensure that information will NOT be retrievable in short order (five years, ten years, fifteen years max) than to put it into a format that can only be read by computer programs. I'm not talking about the lifespan of the media (although it's a royal pain in the butt to have to back up what ebooks and CD-ROMs I already own every couple of years). I am talking about the speed at which standards change and backwards compatibility becomes compromised. Anyone who's had a computer for 20 years knows what I'm talking about. Program types that were as commonplace as water 20 years ago are, these days, incompatible and unviewable. And the standards are not evolving any slower than they were 20 years ago. I have magic books that are two or three times my age and are still 100% readable. But if I buy Nemesis today, I'll bet you that 10 years from now, if I want to look at that file, I'll have to invest a lot of trouble and aggravation (and probably $$) to find a way to do so...if it's possible at all. As Santayana said, those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. It's utter stupidity to think that what we're reading, listening to, or looking at on our computers NOW will be compatible with our programs fifteen years down the pike. --Josh |
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meilechl Special user 657 Posts |
So you're not gonna buy an excellent effect for just $10 because you might not be able to view it in 10 years time???!!!
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Xtasy0 Veteran user 307 Posts |
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On 2004-07-07 18:11, meilechl wrote: [sarcasm] oh yes, it's perfectly logical! [/sarcasm] I hope he doesn't own any 8-tracks, cassette's, vinyl, vhs tapes, cd's, laserdisc, dvd's etc etc... what ever will he do in 20 years when he can't access any of the said formats? oh noes! |
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Josho Special user Albany, New York 758 Posts |
I'm very interested in excellent effects, especially if they're properly documented, or at least put into an electronic format (DVD, for instance) that stands a good chance of being viewable years from now. However, I'm not particularly interested in spending money on things that I know are destined to be useless very quickly.
I'll have at least as much use for my magic collection when I retire as I do now, but if my collection is useless by the time I retire, I haven't spent my money very wisely. Let me ask you this, Meilechl: how many books would you buy at the bookstore if you knew they were going to disintegrate before 10 years were up? How much would be too much for you to spend on them? Obviously, not $10. How about $15? How about $20? How about $25? Where's your cutoff? My cutoff must be lower than yours, but I bet you have one. --Josh Posted: Jul 7, 2004 6:31pm -------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------- I hope he doesn't own any 8-tracks, cassette's, vinyl, vhs tapes, cd's, laserdisc, dvd's etc etc... what ever will he do in 20 years when he can't access any of the said formats? oh noes! --------------------------------------------------------------------- I own quite a few cassettes, LPs, and VHS tapes, all of which are every bit as accessible now as when I bought or recorded them 25 or 30 years ago...those technologies aren't changing every couple of years the way that operating systems and programs change. Wish I could say the same for my dBase files, my Sidekick files, my Wordstar files... Notice a pattern? --Josh |
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meilechl Special user 657 Posts |
It depends what kind of book. If it's a magic book I'd be reluctant to buy it because of the way I read magic books - ie. I keep dipping into them. Note I wrote reluctant but I wouldn't go so far as to say that I'd never buy such a book. Let's face it, I've no idea of the direction my life will take in the next ten years and I don't even know if I'll still be doing magic, or, come to think about it, if I'll even be alive.
However, if it's a novel, which is the equivalent of a vid containing a single trick, I'd be very happy to buy it because I'm not buying the material, I'm buying the secret. If it keeps for 2-3 years and I learn it well enough for it to enter my repetoire, why not? I know the trick and I paid a reasonable amount to know it, it can go. Do you ever pay money to watch a movie even though the pleasure of seeing it only lasts for 2 hours? Sometimes you pay for knowledge - even if it's not in a tangible form. |
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Josho Special user Albany, New York 758 Posts |
Meilichl,
Many thanks for the thoughtful reply (Xtasy0 could certainly take a lesson from you). I guess I'd have to disagree with you, though. For one thing, while I do have novels that I pay $5 or $6 bucks for and then give away, certain that I'll never read them again, I have others that I've kept for decades, and reread every few years. It's no different for me with magic. I cycle tricks in and out of my repertoire. When I want to put a trick back into my repertoire that I haven't used in years, it's rare that I can just pull up all the subtleties (much less the method itself) from memory. I've been magicking seriously for about 30 years, and hope never to lose it from my life permanently (whether I live another year or another 40 years), so it's natural to want to avoid forms of instruction that self-destruct relatively quickly. I noticed that, in the books section of the Magic Café, you're asking about good books that would be smart investments (you're cutting down on expenses, thus you have to spend wisely). I'd prefer ALL my magic purchases to be wise investments, not just some of them; the little unwise ones add up quickly. If, in answer to your question in the Books section, I replied, "I know a book you should buy. It has four terrific effects, costs $40, and will be unreadable at some point in the next 10 years," would you consider that a wise investment? I don't think you would. If you buy four "instant download" effects like Nemesis, that's exactly what you've done. I don't see the distinction between buying "the secret" and buying "the material." If you create your own presentation for every trick you perform, then you're always just buying "the secret," whether it's a book of 100 effects or an individual effect like Nemesis. --Josh |
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meilechl Special user 657 Posts |
I see your point and it makes sense. I just want to sum up my post in 2 words - it depends if you want to buy something for the secret or as something you want to keep rewatching/rereading. The novels that you've kept and keep rereading are the equivalent of a magic book. Sometimes, however, you just buy a trick. It's like buying a packet trick with the knowledge that the cards won't keep forever.
You do make some good points, though, and, although I'll stick to my opinion, I can appreciate yours. Ps. What would you suggest as a good book (Please answer in the aformentioned post)? Posted: Jul 7, 2004 7:39pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ------------------------------------------------------------ On 2004-07-07 19:35, meilechl wrote: PS. What would you suggest as a good book (Please answer in the aformentioned post)? ------------------------------------------------------------ Whoops, I see that you already have! |
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Doomo Inner circle 2365 Posts |
I hate to point this out... but buy it and download it and burn it to dvd...
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Xtasy0 Veteran user 307 Posts |
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On 2004-07-07 22:48, Doomo wrote: in addition you could convert it to vcd or svcd and burn it on cd or dvd and then you could watch it in most home dvd players... |
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