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Re: credit cards and magnets, seems like every in-person business reads the chip and not the strip nowadays.
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Well I have never had an issue and I have been mixing magnets and cards for years although I love my cash my cards all still work.
I have magnetic hold outs all over me and have never had no issues so I disagree with you. I have my card with me now and will pay with it in a minute at the restaurant Iím in and I have the biggest magnet imaginable on my MD real die next to my credit card. It will work 100% I can assure you Gaz.😊


You have had success in how you carry your props and bank cards. I mostly have too but in certain circumstances a bank card's magnetic strip could be erased such as happened to me with The Bat gimmick. Many bank cards utilize "smart" chips now to there is much less of an issue.
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Well it worked anyway, and I donít believe in conspiracy theories and itís obvious they would have sorted those problems out years ago if they ever existed.
Itís complete nonsense, it may have happened once to someone many moons ago so itís nonsense.
It doesnít happen now pure and simple Gaz.😊
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It works and thatís all that matters, they used to say you couldnít have a magnetic case on an iPhone which was another load of cods wallop Gaz.😊
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On Mar 28, 2022, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
Well I have never had an issue and I have been mixing magnets and cards for years although I love my cash my cards all still work.
I have magnetic hold outs all over me and have never had no issues so I disagree with you. I have my card with me now and will pay with it in a minute at the restaurant Iím in and I have the biggest magnet imaginable on my MD real die next to my credit card. It will work 100% I can assure you Gaz.😊


You have had success in how you carry your props and bank cards. I mostly have too but in certain circumstances a bank card's magnetic strip could be erased such as happened to me with The Bat gimmick. Many bank cards utilize "smart" chips now to there is much less of an issue.


The Bat, wow that takes me back a few years - by Chazpro I believe. When this and the Raven 1st came out they were game changers in magic - the good oíl days.
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This discussion is veering way off topic, but just to clarify and provide a little more back up to what I previously stated - credit card magnetic strip experiments on the television show Mythbusters determined that a magnetic field of 1000 gauss is required to corrupt the information on a credit card's magnetic strip. The Earth's magnetic field is approximately 0.5 gauss, a small iron magnet has a field of approximately 100 gauss, and a small neodymium-iron-boron (NIB) magnet has a field of approximately 2,000 gauss. As a result, a small rare earth magnet's field should not be near a credit card. That's not an opinion, it's a scientific fact. That said, if you're comfortable putting your credit card near a magnet, go ahead and do it, but it's pointless to discuss whether or not you personally feel safe doing so.
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On Mar 28, 2022, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
Well I have never had an issue and I have been mixing magnets and cards for years although I love my cash my cards all still work.
I have magnetic hold outs all over me and have never had no issues so I disagree with you. I have my card with me now and will pay with it in a minute at the restaurant Iím in and I have the biggest magnet imaginable on my MD real die next to my credit card. It will work 100% I can assure you Gaz.😊


You have had success in how you carry your props and bank cards. I mostly have too but in certain circumstances a bank card's magnetic strip could be erased such as happened to me with The Bat gimmick. Many bank cards utilize "smart" chips now to there is much less of an issue.


The Bat, wow that takes me back a few years - by Chazpro I believe. When this and the Raven 1st came out they were game changers in magic - the good oíl days.


And what a fun game changer it was! I got so much mileage out of my "Bat" until it was indirectly stolen. I used to "clip" it to my pants near my knee and then while seated at a table the mysteries commenced.
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. . . . Mythbusters determined that a magnetic field of 1000 gauss is required to corrupt the information on a credit card's magnetic strip.

. . . . and a small neodymium-iron-boron (NIB) magnet has a field of approximately 2,000 Gauss. As a result, a small rare earth magnet's field should not be near a credit card. That's not an opinion, it's a scientific fact.


In our context, the word 'Small' has no relevant useful meaning. OK, coming to the point, the magnetic strength depends on a few important factors viz, the shape, size, surface area, thickness, 'N' Grading, contact area, radiating magnetic field etc. etc.

Said that, the magnets in question are very tiny. Also when the gimmick is folded the tiny magnets gets connected to a ferromagnetic material and thus considerably reducing the radiating magnetic field. These tiny magnets (IMO) has no significant effect on magnetic strip. However, it's always a good habit to keep your magnets away from objects that can be affected.

One good way of reducing the radiating magnetic field is by wrapping magnets in Aluminum foil - The thicker the foil the better. Give it a try. Smile

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Hmm , after reading all comments , I'm hesistating, shud I get it lol..
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S quick question: anyone know where I could get the bits and pieces for this effect? Not the papers, but the magnets/strips/dots ? I have contacted the creator, the retailer, and the wholesaler but have not heard back from any of them.
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I would like to know where or at least what size the magnets are. I lost a couple while preparing. I could not figure out their size.
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I'm putting a (simple) tip down below if you have the "stays shut" problem that I really like in addition to what Mickael says.
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I wish I had a mind that created gaffs and gimmicks but I do not from a creative standpoint.

For me there are already existing principles when put together allow you to just use 3 coins and say 3 index cards .

This is what the spectator would say to the following questions after a performance.


1 Did your actions determine the outcome of each coin ? Yes
2) Did the magician touch the coins as you made your decision or at any point afterwards ? No
3) Were there only 3 cards on the table from start to finish ? Yes
4) Did you decide to where each card would be placed ? Yes
5) Did you examine the cards and coins ? Yes - Ungaffed .

I hear my creative friends bemoan the Cafť as a terrible place . I still potter around and often it inspires me to think
how would I do that ?

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Great video Mickael thank you very much Gaz.😊
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On Mr Chatelains own video he takes 16mins to make one gimmick , not including 30 mins drying time. And he was working relatively fast, knew exactly what he was doing and is an expert at this sort of thing. So to say you can do it in 5 minutes when it is small and finicky and need to be very precise is B.S. and he knows it. A little honestly please!
I have extreme doubt that he can make one in five minutes. So to suggest the average magician can is ridiculous.
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I do think it is a clever gimmick and that could play well in the right environment. But the advertisement for it should have been clearer as to the amount of preparation required.
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On Mr Chatelains own video he takes 16mins to make one gimmick , not including 30 mins drying time. And he was working relatively fast, knew exactly what he was doing and is an expert at this sort of thing. So to say you can do it in 5 minutes when it is small and finicky and need to be very precise is B.S. and he knows it. A little honestly please!
I have extreme doubt that he can make one in five minutes. So to suggest the average magician can is ridiculous.



he takes 16 minutes, because he is explaining each step as he does it. I am sure just a video of him making the gimmick without explanation would be 5 minutes. Obviously you're unhappy either way? Very harsh on the opinion there. I have never made this gimmick type, but plenty of gimmicked cards (marketed effect) in my time. I bought this. The first gimmick you follow along with him or just watch once first. The others, then should take you about 5 minutes to make.
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Yourimagic,
I don't think you understand! if you can't make something like this, a tip stop the magic!


Are you saying that if someone isn't able to do the arts & crafts needed for this you think they should stop performing magic altogether?! That sounds like blatant contempt.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
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Itís easy to make, or just pay someone as they are 20 fold on here who after buying the original who can knock these out quicker than a ham shandy imo Gaz 😊
Ps people need to realise magic requires practice and patience and if you canít spend or arenít prepared to spend 5/10 minutes on something do you really want it?
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Hmm. I don't have this, so I can't judge. But Yourimagic stated that he spent far more time than that trying to making these. 2 hours for two if I remember correctly. And sadly he was still not happy with the result. Now again: I cannot judge how difficult this is. But if Yourimagic really did try his best and he is not exaggerating, the last thing he deserves is contempt from the creator. Or from anyone here.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
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