The Magic Café
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Latest and Greatest? » » HEADS & TAILS PREDICTION by Mickael Chatelain (Organic diabolical method that fools everyone!) (34 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page [Previous]  1~2~3~4~5~6~7~8~9~10 [Next]
rowdymagi5
View Profile
Inner circle
Virginia
3361 Posts

Profile of rowdymagi5
It says difficulty level is intermediate, although in the description it makes it seem easy. It certainly looked easy in the video.
lucavolpe
View Profile
Inner circle
Italy - London
3275 Posts

Profile of lucavolpe
I will personally don't use with the head and tails premise as I work with people of various languages.
If they come blank, I will color inside and use three colors disks. (or symbols)
leipzisch
View Profile
Elite user
470 Posts

Profile of leipzisch
That may be challenging Luca, as it seems that the slips are kept slightly open.

That can fly when there is writing on the slips, but may be harder to disguise if there are colours...
lucavolpe
View Profile
Inner circle
Italy - London
3275 Posts

Profile of lucavolpe
Quote:
On Mar 15, 2022, leipzisch wrote:
That may be challenging Luca, as it seems that the slips are kept slightly open.

That can fly when there is writing on the slips, but may be harder to disguise if there are colours...


Maybe drawings will work...we need to test it Smile
Kavanaugh
View Profile
New user
St. Louis, MO
9 Posts

Profile of Kavanaugh
The heat will be so heavy on the predictions that they would have to be examinable at the end. If they are examinable, game changer here. If not, great effect with a ton of immediate cleanup work needed. I am a huge fan of his gimmicks so will probably buy either way but definitely hoping they are examinable as they then elevate to a goto effect for me.
leipzisch
View Profile
Elite user
470 Posts

Profile of leipzisch
It's very unlikely they are examinable, and the amount of heat put on them will be in direct proportion to the attitude of the performer (and how they decide to routine and handle the props).

I can see experienced performers showing the messages as an afterthought, or as a prelude to a bigger effect. Two examples of how heat can be taken away.
Christian_de_Punto
View Profile
New user
Earth - Europe - Germany 138 plus
64 Posts

Profile of Christian_de_Punto
And for me it does not even look innocent in the trailer... how much less in reality?!?

Quote:
On Mar 14, 2022, leipzisch wrote:
Agree with Gaz.

How innocent the slips look close up (whether
the gimmick is open or locked) will be the deciding factor as to how useable this is.
videoman
View Profile
Inner circle
5886 Posts

Profile of videoman
These are paper and not coins or brass boxes so they cannot lock to the point of being examinable. But why would specs want to examine them if they believe they are just slips of paper. I think as magicians we get to used to gimmicks and multiple outs. These are things laymen are not so attuned to.

AFA repeating the effect, we must remember that we perform in different situations. If you’re doing a formal show you will probably have a longer and more involved presentation which then leads into another effect. Whereas doing this for the boys down at the pub it would likely be more barebones and you quite often are asked to show this person or that person. Yes, I know you don’t “have” to but it’s fun to be able to. This could be one of those effects where the more times they see it the more confounded they become. I personally enjoy that type of situation. If you’re a performer who enjoys saying no to every request so you can feel that you’re in control then repeating the effect is probably not a big deal to you. Different horses for courses but I think that gets overlooked a lot of times.
EZrhythm
View Profile
Inner circle
Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my
1432 Posts

Profile of EZrhythm
Performing this one time to an audience with only three reveals- I am not seeing the WOW factor at all. Maybe people are more easily entertained than I thought. 😆
And at $35 we are still seeing magicians fooled too.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
leipzisch
View Profile
Elite user
470 Posts

Profile of leipzisch
I think it can be hammed up as a pretty impressive influence or prediction effect...
magicinsight
View Profile
Inner circle
4084 Posts

Profile of magicinsight
Quote:
On Mar 15, 2022, EZrhythm wrote:
Performing this one time to an audience with only three reveals- I am not seeing the WOW factor at all. Maybe people are more easily entertained than I thought. 😆
And at $35 we are still seeing magicians fooled too.


Perhaps then buy two sets to do 6 reveals. I think this type of an effect with 3 reveals is a nice interlude and precursor for another effect.
Michael
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver
Fromentum
View Profile
Regular user
138 Posts

Profile of Fromentum
Quote:
On Mar 15, 2022, magicinsight wrote:
Quote:
On Mar 15, 2022, EZrhythm wrote:
Performing this one time to an audience with only three reveals- I am not seeing the WOW factor at all. Maybe people are more easily entertained than I thought. 😆
And at $35 we are still seeing magicians fooled too.


Perhaps then buy two sets to do 6 reveals. I think this type of an effect with 3 reveals is a nice interlude and precursor for another effect.
Michael


Or buy 20 Sets to make 60 reveals. As we all know the more reveals the better the effect ;-)

But honestly you could make a great presentation about the first coin beeing thrown at random (your prediction does not match because you can't predict randomness.
Second coin is thrown and the spectator decides if he switches or does not. prediction matches.
Third coin is not thrown and the spectator decides how its positioned. prediction matches of course.

Nice possibilities to "influence" the choices of a spectator with things you say:
"first coin is heads so mkst people don't switch"
"Second coin is heads too so most people decide to go with tails"
magicmind
View Profile
Inner circle
Wandering around with
2621 Posts

Profile of magicmind
Quote:
On Mar 15, 2022, leipzisch wrote:
It's very unlikely they are examinable, and the amount of heat put on them will be in direct proportion to the attitude of the performer (and how they decide to routine and handle the props).

I can see experienced performers showing the messages as an afterthought, or as a prelude to a bigger effect. Two examples of how heat can be taken away.


I'm not sure about the performer taking heat off papers. However, as part of a bigger effect you can go right into, maybe. To me removing pre printed/prepared scraps of paper to do and effect to me screams gimmicked paper. Would it not be more "normal" , in this case to write predictions on papers as part of the performance.
leipzisch
View Profile
Elite user
470 Posts

Profile of leipzisch
No, not really.
Only magicians scream about papers with writing on them not being what they seem.
leipzisch
View Profile
Elite user
470 Posts

Profile of leipzisch
Having said that, if the gimmicks are poorly made (or don't look innocent), everybody will be suspicious...
magicmind
View Profile
Inner circle
Wandering around with
2621 Posts

Profile of magicmind
Quote:
On Mar 15, 2022, leipzisch wrote:
No, not really.
Only magicians scream about papers with writing on them not being what they seem.

I'm talking about from a spec view. you have prewritten scraps of paper that you carry in your wallet??? not printed cards per say, but scrap looking ones that , if normal, would be written in front of them. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
leipzisch
View Profile
Elite user
470 Posts

Profile of leipzisch
Understood, magicmind.
But if you are showing someone some magic, why wouldn't you have something written down on a slip of paper in your wallet?
I've seen magicians bring out far odder things from their pockets!
magicmind
View Profile
Inner circle
Wandering around with
2621 Posts

Profile of magicmind
Not fishing, but not sure of two things. Can it be repeated? It is too perfect, as a standalone, as performed in that demo. Also, could this demo be the best possible outcome? Smile
magicmind
View Profile
Inner circle
Wandering around with
2621 Posts

Profile of magicmind
Quote:
On Mar 15, 2022, magicmind wrote:
Not fishing, but not sure of two things. Can it be repeated? It is too perfect, as a standalone, as performed in that demo. Also, could this demo be the best possible outcome? Smile


I found my answers, kind of.....these are NOT examinable, but VERY deceptive and as demoed it IS that perfect every time.
magicinsight
View Profile
Inner circle
4084 Posts

Profile of magicinsight
You can mimic writing in the paper with a marker that matches the ink used. I don’t think that is necessary especially for table hopping. You are not going to write on new slips of paper the same words each time. Also, all you have to say, if you are concerned about using pre written slips of paper, that you have shown this many times as an experiment in randomness or coincidence or influence (however you want to phase it) and proceed. This justifies using ore written slips of paper.
Michael
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Latest and Greatest? » » HEADS & TAILS PREDICTION by Mickael Chatelain (Organic diabolical method that fools everyone!) (34 Likes)
 Go to page [Previous]  1~2~3~4~5~6~7~8~9~10 [Next]
X
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2022 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.15 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL