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mkarav![]() Regular user Westwood, NJ 106 Posts ![]() |
Any recommendations for dry hand lotions. I tried O’Keeffe’s but I I hope there is something better. thanks
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mindmagic![]() Inner circle London 1658 Posts ![]() |
For coin work, try a tiny bit of glycerine. You should be able to get it from the baking section of a store.
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Tom G![]() Inner circle 2837 Posts ![]() |
If you can find some Golden Touch lotion available at vitamin shops if you can't find it elsewhere.
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David Neighbors![]() V.I.P. 4901 Posts ![]() |
Yea I use Golden All the time ! it is what Marlo used !
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Michael Rubinstein![]() V.I.P. 4467 Posts ![]() |
I use a Veterinary product, Humilac, made by Virbac, found at Vets. Unfortunately it was taken off the market in 2015. It consisted of Glycerine, water, and lactic acid. I tried Golden Touch, but the moisture goes away pretty fast, and doesn't give me the tacky feeling I need for my fingertips that glycerine does.
Both Ricky Jay and David Roth used glycerine and rosewater, but I am not sure if they made up their own solution. You can find this commercially on Amazon, and I am awaiting my order to see how it feels. In the meantime I still have my supply of Humilac (it is ok, but over the years it has diminished in its ability to keep the tacky feeling I sometimes need), to which I may add some glycerine to make it a bit more tacky. As a side note, I believe Francis Carlyle used to suck on charms, and licked his hands whenever he needed to make them tacky. I tried it, and that works, but I would prefer not to constantly lick my fingers and palms. As another side note, I used mink oil to soften some leather I had, and it did make my hands feel ok for a bit. But not sure if it is something that can be used long term.
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Lawrens Godon![]() Inner circle France 1106 Posts ![]() |
Glycerin has always helped me to give me this tacky feeling - In winter I have dry hands, I couldn't do my coin magic without it.
Also, I like that it has no smell at all, very neutral. Just a drop or two, a good massage of the palms, wrists and fingers and I'l good to go ! |
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Calvin Tong![]() Special user 709 Posts ![]() |
I have been using O'keeffe's for quite some time. works well and seems to last longer than golden touch in my experience. Not sure if the humidity (or lack there of) in your area would have an effect on that. Another benefit is that there is no odor.
https://www.amazon.com/OKeeffes-Working-......1ZQ&th=1
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drmagico![]() Loyal user 247 Posts ![]() |
I have used Papercreme fingetip moisturizer for years. I think it works very well.
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Christopher Moro![]() Special user 793 Posts ![]() |
I have hands so dry I can't seem to hold on to anything, much less accomplish sleight of hand... UNLESS I add back some moisture. I've found this has to do with changing body chemistry, age and... climate. As the climate changes, my needs change. During the winter months, I need something strong, like O'Keefes. But during summer or humid weather, a tiny bit of Lee Papercreme fintertip moisturizer is better if dabbed in a few spots. Sometimes Golden Touch works in the warmer months when even Papercreme is too tacky. For coin work, its a bit more finnicky for me. Coins can also start sticking to your hand if you're not careful, so striking the right balance of tackiness can get tricky. For card work, I find it less finnicky. The main issue there is to ensure product doesn't come off on the cards and cake them up.
I would say, experiment with many products in different climates and environments. Some others that people have used are Cornhuskers (this was too greasy for me), Gloves in a Bottle (didn't work for me)... and David Roth used Rosin (for violins) which he actually put on the coin edges (quite effective). |
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gregg webb![]() Inner circle 1564 Posts ![]() |
Glycerin was the liquid of choice in the old days, not to leave on for performing, but done as a regimen to keep the skin supple. You then rinse it off. People like Geoff Latta would always go to wash his hands if someone asked him to perform. There are soaps with glycerin. Erdnase talks about glycerin in some of his other books.
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RobertApodaca![]() New user Henderson, NV 94 Posts ![]() |
You said it already.....O Keefe Worder hands
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PapaG![]() Special user 802 Posts ![]() |
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On Mar 27, 2022, Michael Rubinstein wrote: Did you find a good alternative, or is the Humilac supply still holding out? |
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Michael Rubinstein![]() V.I.P. 4467 Posts ![]() |
Humolac is no longer being made. So I know use a rosewater/glycerine product found on Amazon, and add vegetable glycerine in spots I need to be more tacky.
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Michael Rubinstein![]() V.I.P. 4467 Posts ![]() |
Oh, sorry for the earlier typos. Fat thumbs. The rosewater/glycerin product I got from Amazon is by Heritage Store in case anyone is looking.
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Inlakesh![]() New user 58 Posts ![]() |
I personally just use olive oil, or coconut oil. I apply it at least an hour before I want to perform and the oilyness dissipates leaving hydrated, supple hands. Like a lady.
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gregg webb![]() Inner circle 1564 Posts ![]() |
O'Keefe's makes one for feet, Healthy Feet, but it is the same stuff but in a tube, a little bit creamier and easier to use. Also heard of something called Chamberland's?
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VernonOnCoins![]() Inner circle NYC 1915 Posts ![]() |
I just ordered Magicians Choice from Penguin. Have used it before and it’s very good
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Tom G![]() Inner circle 2837 Posts ![]() |
VernonOnCoins most likely a regular product, rebottled, and the price doubled.
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gregg webb![]() Inner circle 1564 Posts ![]() |
I don't think it is my imagination, but lots of practice seems to help with the dryness issue and even seems to ward off mild arthritis stiffness. I'm not claiming it will cure full blown arthritis, but it certainly seems to help, and also with the dryness. Moral of the story - practice more.
Everyone's idea of "a lot of practice" varies, I'm sure. Every single day? Of course. Concert pianists practice all day unless they have a concert to do, which counts as practice. They miss a day, they themselves notice. 2 days? Their friends notice. 3 days? Their audiences notice. |
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GJo![]() New user 40 Posts ![]() |
Over the past few months, I have experimented with many of the recommendations offered in this thread: O'Keeffe's Working Hands, Vegetable Glycerin, 1:1:1 Glycerin/Alcohol/Water solution, and Hidersine Supergrip Double Bass Rosin (applied to coins).
My hands are dry. I do not have a problem with sweaty hands. O'Keeffe's works well, but I find it just a bit clammy, and coins sometimes stick to my palm. I use a very small dab...smaller than a pea. Vegetable glycerin produces about the same result as O'Keeffe's. Two tiny drops rubbed thoroughly into the hands and between the fingers. 1:1:1 Glycerin/Alcohol/Water solution is a really nice combination, as it results in less clamminess than either 100% Glycerin or O'Keeffe's. I did a search on Amazon to see what golfers, weightlifters and tennis players use, and I discovered 2Toms GripShield. A small amount rubbed into the hands and allowed to dry creates very effective grip without any stickiness or clamminess whatsoever. Almost like chalk, but it dries clear without residue. It's popular among pole dancers...so there's that! It's inexpensive, and can be returned for a full refund. If anyone tries it, I'd be interested in your feedback. |
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