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Alouf
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Hi,

This is my first post to this forum. I am a beginner in the art of magic, as a hobby. Well, like you all, I think I am really fascinated by the whole thing since I was a small kid and my uncle was presenting all these nifty tricks.

I am interested in IT. So I decided to shop around a bit for some thread and I discovered that there are a lot of variations. I am really lost now. Smile
Examples of the tricks I want to present at family gatherings are the floating dollar bills, floating card. Here is the stuff I found.

1-Invisible Thread
2-Kevlar Invisible Thread
3-Loops
4-Reels
5-ITR? ( mini, super mini, gator )
6-Retractors

I am really lost now on what to purchase. The only definition I know is #1, which is a thin invisible filament, which I know I can use for one floating bill variation. The rest I have no clue what they are and when to use them. Smile

Thanks for your help.
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Alouf:

I'm new here also. Go to your local fabric store and get some wooly nylon. I live in a small town and I can still find it. Strip the strands 'til you can't see what you are holding. That's your I.T.! Not too strong, but it can float a bill, or a card. The other things on your list are good but you can do it all with just the thread. Practice is the key. If you have confidence you are smooth and the magic works itself. If you rush into it, you end up with a string on your finger and some explaining to do.
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Alouf
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Hi,

Thanks for the advice. But could someone explain maybe what are the other 5 ITs? Just say enough without saying too much.

Thanks for your assistance.
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They are all variations or improvements on the same thing.

Kevlar is stronger, but brittle and less "invisible."
Loops are self-explanatory as are reels and retractors. ITR is a brand of reel made by Jame George but is quickly turning into a generic term for all IT reels.

I suggest playing with the regular IT first. There is a LOT you can do with it before you even need to spend big bux on gadgets.

Most (maybe all) you see on David Blaine and T.H.E.M. was accomplished with nothing but standard IT. No gadgets, reels, or retractors.
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Alouf, you might want to consider getting Jon LeClair's "WHO'S AFRAID OF INVISIBLE THREAD?" book or video. There he teaches a method of setting up the IT (ala hook-up) which is both practical and effective. Both the book and video come with a starter supply of IT, flesh colored putty, and a few effects to sink your teeth on.

He also teaches you how to get more thread and putty as needed (or you can buy it from him).
Alouf
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Great!

Thank you guys all for your help. This forum is truly a brotherhood of magicians. I was truly expecting to be flamed for my question, and I am really happy to see that, on the contrary, everyone is trying to help me instead.

I guess I will have to start somewhere, and upon dark's suggestion, I will be purchasing the "Who's Afraid of Invisible Thread?".

Though I still don't know what the other IT stuff is Smile And now to make it more confusing, there is a new term I discovered, the Elastic Invisible Thread. It might be because my native language is not English that I am having a hard time with the definitions.

Thanks again all. I truly feel honored to be here.
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Alouf, EIT is typcally used for making loops. It can stretch to (as the advertisement says) "up to 8 times its length" *SNAP* *OUCH!*

Let me try to expand on what Dave said:

1-Invisible Thread: traditional invisible thread (IT) made of nylon, not very strong, but can be very invisible

2-Kevlar Invisible Thread: Thread made of Kevlar (as in bulletproof vest). It's stronger than regular IT, but the disadvantage is that it's more visible than IT.

3-Loops: Loops of Elastic IT that you can wear on your body for impromptu effects. Not as invisible as regular IT or kevlar, and can become expensive (5 loops for 10$). You can't do as many effects with loops, but great for anytime impromptu magic. An advanced topic.

4-Reels: Think of those free badge or key ring reels that you can buy at an office supply store but much better. Used with regular (not invisible) thread.

5-ITR (mini, super mini, gator): Invisible Thread Reel, another advanced topic. Basically a self retracting system or reel for holding and dispensing invisible thread. It can hold regular IT or Kevlar based IT. Kind of an "on-demand" system for IT for more advanced thread workers. Each style has different line tensions and quietness, so it depends on what you want. This is something you may want to get sometime in the future to add to your arsenal.

6-Retractors: Not sure what you mean by this; all I can think of is the Stealth Retractor which is an electrical ITR. I've never used one (too expensive for my poor wallet) but they seem hard to handle.

Hope that helps. You're welcome to PM me if you have more detailed questions. Good luck!
Alouf
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Thank you Dark!
This was the post I was hoping to get. You made everything so much clearer!

Thanks again for your time and effort.
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Now if you really want to have some fun... forget all effects you have seen or heard of and CREATE YOUR OWN.
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You might try LOOPS.
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