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Other than palming or copping, what are some relatively easy ways to make it seem like you've made the spectator's chosen card disappear?
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Look up Magic Card Wand by Cody Fisher. It will work and also it has many other things it can be used for.
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... easy ways to make it seem like you've made the spectator's chosen card disappear


Either you are looking for a mechanical device hidden in plain sight (gimmick) to do the dirty job for you that physically removes the selected card from the deck, or you want to do a bluff display to the spectator as if the card seems to have magically disappeared. The deck is examinable in the former but usually cannot be examined by the spectator in the latter.

Former method


Latter method


Former method involving a Deck Switch, but probably difficult to retrieve the selected card (really lost in the deck) later, unless you hand it to your unsuspecting assistant for the Card-to-Impossible-Location effect.
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Ok, here's a bit of context about what I want to do: I'm thinking of showing the cards one by one to show that their card has disappeared while doing Woody Aragon's Separagon (in preparation for doing OOTW or a full-deck Oil & Water next).

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or you want to do a bluff display to the spectator as if the card seems to have magically disappeared.

Any ideas on that?
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... showing the cards one by one to show that their card has disappeared while doing Woody Aragon's Separagon...


Build a familiar memorized deck using the principle inspired by Jean-Pierre Vallarino's Off World. This should allow you to access to the stack order and show the face of the cards one at a time, all up to 51 cards, while concealing the selected card that you don't want to display to the spectator.

I'd call this method "Total Eclipse" because it is attributed to an astronomical event that occurs when a celestial body is temporarily obscured, by passing into the shadow of another body.

All thanks to the inspiration from Jean-Pierre Vallarino's Off World, I think many card effects can be made possible by this method including the ACAAN or 51 Faces North tricks.

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... showing the cards one by one to show that their card has disappeared while doing Woody Aragon's Separagon...


Build a familiar memorized deck using the principle inspired by Jean-Pierre Vallarino's Off World. This should allow you to access to the stack order and show the face of the cards one at a time, all up to 51 cards, while concealing the selected card that you don't want to display to the spectator.

Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with Off World.
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... showing the cards one by one to show that their card has disappeared while doing Woody Aragon's Separagon...


Build a familiar memorized deck using the principle inspired by Jean-Pierre Vallarino's Off World. This should allow you to access to the stack order and show the face of the cards one at a time, all up to 51 cards, while concealing the selected card that you don't want to display to the spectator.

Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with Off World.
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Ok, I watched a performance video of Off World. And I think I have some idea of what's going on there – my bet is R&S. And that gave me some ideas.
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Maybe won't suit your purpose, but a couple more ideas -
1. Double Face cards
2, Mis-indexed cards
3. There is an old (Eddie Joseph ?) trick where the cards in a deck are counted. There are only 51, and the spec's card is missing.

On the whole, a mem-deck is going to aid almost any method (as already mentioned).

Simon Aronson has a great trick called The Invisible Card.
Any card is named. It is shown to be missing from the deck. Then it magically re-appears reversed in the deck.
Requires a mem-deck. Apart from that, it is really easy handling.
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... And that gave me some ideas.


It's great to hear that. Also try Niko's suggestions on using gaff cards to achieve the vanishing effect. Hope there is a chance to see your performance...
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I don't know if this would work with Separagon, but you might be interested anyway. Works with a shuffled, un-gimmicked deck.

Control the selection to the top of the deck. Spread the cards (face up) one by one from right hand to left hand. (Secretly count as you do this). Keep your left index finger on the outside corner of the "stock" of cards in the left hand. When you get to number 50, push this card across as usual with the left thumb, making sure to keep the last TWO cards (51 & 52) aligned. Then transfer these across as one, as you casually close the deck.
[If you use a mem-deck you will recognise when you get to the penultimate card, so no need to count.]

I am merely a beginner/intermediate at sleights - but this seems pretty easy to me.

UPDATE - I just watched a video of Separagon. He goes through the deck face-up tossing the cards face-down. I reckon the technique above should work, as the cards are in a pretty messy pile anyway.
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I am merely a beginner/intermediate at sleights - but this seems pretty easy to me.

UPDATE - I just watched a video of Separagon. He goes through the deck face-up tossing the cards face-down. I reckon the technique above should work, as the cards are in a pretty messy pile anyway.


Yes, your proposed method will work. It all depends on how a magician prefers to perform. I personally prefer the Fusion Tactics, which combines elements of different illusions and convincers that originate from different Misdirection, Sleights, and Gimmicks, something that I call "M.S.G" as a flavor enhancer to the magical experience. The Fusion Tactics allow me to have more degrees of freedom to gain a Positional Advantage, rather than relying on pure sleights.
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