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Elmer 84
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Posted: Nov 26, 2022 12:43 pm
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Quote: On Nov 23, 2022, Elmer 84 wrote:
Quote: On Nov 15, 2022, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
I want to do the clone move then put away in the Orphic and do the brilliant switch and be able to hand out the 2 new completely cloned cards.
I can with 2 sets in either Black or Orange (I have a choice). Orange is my preference but I like the option Gaz ps this is great very old underused move which I knew of but it kills layman if you do it correctly
How has your field testing gone?
It looks like Gaz has left the Café.
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Mark_Chandaue
Inner circle
Essex UK
4187 Posts
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Posted: Nov 26, 2022 04:34 pm
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Gaz is preparing to fly off to film the tutorial for his peek wallet but I am sure he will return to the Café soon.
Here is my routine for overdraft that allows you to show both sides of the cards before the routine and allows both orange cards to be examined ant the end even if you don’t have an extra.
I use my mini himber rather than the Orphic but it would work equally well with an Orphic.
Start with both cards in one side of the wallet and the gaff black side up in the other.
Say that you are going to show how a magician would commit credit card fraud. This should immediately generate interest.
Explain that it wouldn’t be ethical to use the participant’s card so we will pretend this card is theirs. Open the wallet and give them the orange card, leaving the wallet open. Say that there is some important info you need to commit card fraud. Take the black card from the wallet and point out the long number saying “You need the long number”. Turn the black card over and point to the cvv (the 3 numbers) and say “You also need the 3 numbers on the back”. Point out these are unique and compare them to the numbers on the orange card they are holding.
You have now shown both sides of both cards without making a big deal of it. They are still holding the orange one.
Put the black card away and put the wallet on the table, doing the switch if using an Orphic. Say “but the holy grail is your PIN code. Of course just as it wouldn’t be ethical to use your card the same is true of your pin so we will create a random pin based on numbers from your life”.
Here you can either use my Poison Pin routine from Harpacrown Too, or you can use Peter Turner’s Life equation pin. Or you can simply have them write down their made up pin and use your favourite P**k.
Having revealed their pin, say “Now all I need to do is to get your card details. The easiest way is to clone your card” Now take out the gaff from the wallet. They have already seen both sides so there is no heat on the card.
Perform the clone as per the instructions. When you do the flushstration count, point out the cvv on the first card and then turn over the second card and comment that even the cvv matches.
Hand the orange card back to the participant saying “this one is yours, make sure I haven’t damaged it” (subtle way of letting them examine it without saying examine it).
After they have looked at it, say “oh wait, it’s mine“ This makes sense because it is actually yours. Hold out your hand and they will hand you the card. Use Daley’s delight to switch the cards as you say “This one is yours”.
The switch happens on the off beat because they think they are just giving you your card back, they are not expecting you to give them the other one.
So there you have it a nice mind reading routine that has a magical kicker. They see both sides of both cards at the beginning and they apparently examine both at the end.
Also if you want it for your social media you can lend them the card and set them up for the pin reveal before the cameras are rolling giving you an absolute miracle where the reactions are not lessened by the “pre-show”.
Mark
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bentpenny
Regular user
199 Posts
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Posted: Nov 26, 2022 05:27 pm
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Thank you so much for writing out this routine! It has really helped me out.
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Bottom Drawer
Regular user
116 Posts
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Posted: Nov 26, 2022 05:46 pm
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Quote: On Nov 26, 2022, Mark_Chandaue wrote:
Gaz is preparing to fly off to film the tutorial for his peek wallet but I am sure he will return to the Café soon.
Here is my routine for overdraft that allows you to show both sides of the cards before the routine and allows both orange cards to be examined ant the end even if you don’t have an extra.
I use my mini himber rather than the Orphic but it would work equally well with an Orphic.
Start with both cards in one side of the wallet and the gaff black side up in the other.
Say that you are going to show how a magician would commit credit card fraud. This should immediately generate interest.
Explain that it wouldn’t be ethical to use the participant’s card so we will pretend this card is theirs. Open the wallet and give them the orange card, leaving the wallet open. Say that there is some important info you need to commit card fraud. Take the black card from the wallet and point out the long number saying “You need the long number”. Turn the black card over and point to the cvv (the 3 numbers) and say “You also need the 3 numbers on the back”. Point out these are unique and compare them to the numbers on the orange card they are holding.
You have now shown both sides of both cards without making a big deal of it. They are still holding the orange one.
Put the black card away and put the wallet on the table, doing the switch if using an Orphic. Say “but the holy grail is your PIN code. Of course just as it wouldn’t be ethical to use your card the same is true of your pin so we will create a random pin based on numbers from your life”.
Here you can either use my Poison Pin routine from Harpacrown Too, or you can use Peter Turner’s Life equation pin. Or you can simply have them write down their made up pin and use your favourite P**k.
Having revealed their pin, say “Now all I need to do is to get your card details. The easiest way is to clone your card” Now take out the gaff from the wallet. They have already seen both sides so there is no heat on the card.
Perform the clone as per the instructions. When you do the flushstration count, point out the cvv on the first card and then turn over the second card and comment that even the cvv matches.
Hand the orange card back to the participant saying “this one is yours, make sure I haven’t damaged it” (subtle way of letting them examine it without saying examine it).
After they have looked at it, say “oh wait, it’s mine“ This makes sense because it is actually yours. Hold out your hand and they will hand you the card. Use Daley’s delight to switch the cards as you say “This one is yours”.
The switch happens on the off beat because they think they are just giving you your card back, they are not expecting you to give them the other one.
So there you have it a nice mind reading routine that has a magical kicker. They see both sides of both cards at the beginning and they apparently examine both at the end.
Also if you want it for your social media you can lend them the card and set them up for the pin reveal before the cameras are rolling giving you an absolute miracle where the reactions are not lessened by the “pre-show”.
Mark
Classic LOL LOL
He has had more bans than anyone.
He has reinvented himself more than Madonna,
He threatened a guy direct online.
Could be the end this time for our font of all knowledge.
BD
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Paul Fowler
New user
43 Posts
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Posted: Nov 26, 2022 05:58 pm
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Quote: On Nov 26, 2022, Mark_Chandaue wrote:
Gaz is preparing to fly off to film the tutorial for his peek wallet but I am sure he will return to the Café soon.
Here is my routine for overdraft that allows you to show both sides of the cards before the routine and allows both orange cards to be examined ant the end even if you don’t have an extra.
I use my mini himber rather than the Orphic but it would work equally well with an Orphic.
Start with both cards in one side of the wallet and the gaff black side up in the other.
Say that you are going to show how a magician would commit credit card fraud. This should immediately generate interest.
Explain that it wouldn’t be ethical to use the participant’s card so we will pretend this card is theirs. Open the wallet and give them the orange card, leaving the wallet open. Say that there is some important info you need to commit card fraud. Take the black card from the wallet and point out the long number saying “You need the long number”. Turn the black card over and point to the cvv (the 3 numbers) and say “You also need the 3 numbers on the back”. Point out these are unique and compare them to the numbers on the orange card they are holding.
You have now shown both sides of both cards without making a big deal of it. They are still holding the orange one.
Put the black card away and put the wallet on the table, doing the switch if using an Orphic. Say “but the holy grail is your PIN code. Of course just as it wouldn’t be ethical to use your card the same is true of your pin so we will create a random pin based on numbers from your life”.
Here you can either use my Poison Pin routine from Harpacrown Too, or you can use Peter Turner’s Life equation pin. Or you can simply have them write down their made up pin and use your favourite P**k.
Having revealed their pin, say “Now all I need to do is to get your card details. The easiest way is to clone your card” Now take out the gaff from the wallet. They have already seen both sides so there is no heat on the card.
Perform the clone as per the instructions. When you do the flushstration count, point out the cvv on the first card and then turn over the second card and comment that even the cvv matches.
Hand the orange card back to the participant saying “this one is yours, make sure I haven’t damaged it” (subtle way of letting them examine it without saying examine it).
After they have looked at it, say “oh wait, it’s mine“ This makes sense because it is actually yours. Hold out your hand and they will hand you the card. Use Daley’s delight to switch the cards as you say “This one is yours”.
The switch happens on the off beat because they think they are just giving you your card back, they are not expecting you to give them the other one.
So there you have it a nice mind reading routine that has a magical kicker. They see both sides of both cards at the beginning and they apparently examine both at the end.
Also if you want it for your social media you can lend them the card and set them up for the pin reveal before the cameras are rolling giving you an absolute miracle where the reactions are not lessened by the “pre-show”.
Mark
Love it Mark!
Thanks for sharing and I’m glad you’re enjoying it.
Paul
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Marc Edgar
Regular user
156 Posts
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Posted: Nov 26, 2022 10:06 pm
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Quote: On Nov 26, 2022, Mark_Chandaue wrote:
Gaz is preparing to fly off to film the tutorial for his peek wallet but I am sure he will return to the Café soon.
Here is my routine for overdraft that allows you to show both sides of the cards before the routine and allows both orange cards to be examined ant the end even if you don’t have an extra.
I use my mini himber rather than the Orphic but it would work equally well with an Orphic.
Start with both cards in one side of the wallet and the gaff black side up in the other.
Say that you are going to show how a magician would commit credit card fraud. This should immediately generate interest.
Explain that it wouldn’t be ethical to use the participant’s card so we will pretend this card is theirs. Open the wallet and give them the orange card, leaving the wallet open. Say that there is some important info you need to commit card fraud. Take the black card from the wallet and point out the long number saying “You need the long number”. Turn the black card over and point to the cvv (the 3 numbers) and say “You also need the 3 numbers on the back”. Point out these are unique and compare them to the numbers on the orange card they are holding.
You have now shown both sides of both cards without making a big deal of it. They are still holding the orange one.
Put the black card away and put the wallet on the table, doing the switch if using an Orphic. Say “but the holy grail is your PIN code. Of course just as it wouldn’t be ethical to use your card the same is true of your pin so we will create a random pin based on numbers from your life”.
Here you can either use my Poison Pin routine from Harpacrown Too, or you can use Peter Turner’s Life equation pin. Or you can simply have them write down their made up pin and use your favourite P**k.
Having revealed their pin, say “Now all I need to do is to get your card details. The easiest way is to clone your card” Now take out the gaff from the wallet. They have already seen both sides so there is no heat on the card.
Perform the clone as per the instructions. When you do the flushstration count, point out the cvv on the first card and then turn over the second card and comment that even the cvv matches.
Hand the orange card back to the participant saying “this one is yours, make sure I haven’t damaged it” (subtle way of letting them examine it without saying examine it).
After they have looked at it, say “oh wait, it’s mine“ This makes sense because it is actually yours. Hold out your hand and they will hand you the card. Use Daley’s delight to switch the cards as you say “This one is yours”.
The switch happens on the off beat because they think they are just giving you your card back, they are not expecting you to give them the other one.
So there you have it a nice mind reading routine that has a magical kicker. They see both sides of both cards at the beginning and they apparently examine both at the end.
Also if you want it for your social media you can lend them the card and set them up for the pin reveal before the cameras are rolling giving you an absolute miracle where the reactions are not lessened by the “pre-show”.
Mark
Thank you for sharing this, Mark! I'm going to try this out.
Marc
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Silverstar
New user
46 Posts
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Posted: Nov 26, 2022 10:21 pm
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Does anyone know if the 1914 will be getting anymore of the extra orange cards? They are showing out of stock at the moment.
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warren
Inner circle
uk
4138 Posts
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Posted: Nov 27, 2022 01:02 pm
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Nice routine Mark, out of interest what Mini Himber do you use, a JOL ?
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Mark_Chandaue
Inner circle
Essex UK
4187 Posts
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Posted: Nov 27, 2022 03:28 pm
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Yes I use the JOL mini himber and it is probably one of my favourites of all the wallets I own.
Mark
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Elmer 84
Regular user
181 Posts
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Posted: Nov 27, 2022 03:48 pm
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Thanks for sharing your thinking Mark. Brilliant!!!
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LankyHobo
Veteran user
325 Posts
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Posted: Nov 27, 2022 04:10 pm
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Quote: On Nov 26, 2022, Silverstar wrote:
Does anyone know if the 1914 will be getting anymore of the extra orange cards? They are showing out of stock at the moment.
Yes, I would also like to know this please. Although with the great Black Friday sale they have on I'm tempted to buy a whole new set and explore possible routines this could enable.
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Mark_Chandaue
Inner circle
Essex UK
4187 Posts
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Posted: Nov 27, 2022 04:17 pm
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I was going to buy an extra orange card but due to the sale price I just went ahead and picked up a second set for the extra opportunities it offers.
Mark
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LankyHobo
Veteran user
325 Posts
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Posted: Nov 27, 2022 04:25 pm
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Well I've also been eyeing the Orphic wallet which is also at a great discount, but I don't think I can do both. probably should be saving for Christmas.
I've been trying to persuade myself today I don't actually want it/need it but the more reviews I watch about it the more I really want it!
Maybe I'll buy both and just send my family photos of my happy face. Surely this is the best gift anyone can receive!
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magicmind
Inner circle
My fence has 20,
3218 Posts
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Posted: Nov 28, 2022 04:23 pm
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Quote: On Nov 27, 2022, Mark_Chandaue wrote:
I was going to buy an extra orange card but due to the sale price I just went ahead and picked up a second set for the extra opportunities it offers.
Mark
I purchased an extra set and 2 orange. Back-ups and spares at a great price!
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Vraagaard
Inner circle
Copenhagen, Denmark
1479 Posts
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Posted: Nov 29, 2022 09:46 am
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Hi Marc
Just excellent, thanks a lot for sharing, very helpful, and the Daley's delight (switch) covers the ending beautifully.
All the best
Jan
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Mark_Chandaue
Inner circle
Essex UK
4187 Posts
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Posted: Nov 29, 2022 11:56 am
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An alternate way to end clean if you are not confident with Daley’s Delight is hand them the orange card saying “This is yours” and put the gimmick into the wallet saying “This one is mine”. Close the wallet and then say “Ah but what if you get stopped by the police?” Snap your fingers then the wallet to the ungaffed black card saying “Officer, there was no crime, it was just an illusion”.
Now you are clean and can simply place the cards into the wallet and you are reset.
Likewise if someone says “show me the other card” as you put it back, you can respond with “That’s exactly what the policeman said” Then snap your fingers and end by showing it was just an illusion.
This of course requires a himber, it wouldn’t work with the Orphic.
Mark
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Xcath1
Inner circle
3052 Posts
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Posted: Nov 29, 2022 01:24 pm
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Where is Daley’s Delight taught?
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rkp
Regular user
135 Posts
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Posted: Nov 29, 2022 01:51 pm
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Xcath1
Inner circle
3052 Posts
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Posted: Nov 29, 2022 02:46 pm
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Thanks so much
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Nathan Alexander
Inner circle
2021 Posts
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Posted: Nov 29, 2022 03:01 pm
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Quote: On Nov 26, 2022, Mark_Chandaue wrote:
Gaz is preparing to fly off to film the tutorial for his peek wallet but I am sure he will return to the Café soon.
Here is my routine for overdraft that allows you to show both sides of the cards before the routine and allows both orange cards to be examined ant the end even if you don’t have an extra.
I use my mini himber rather than the Orphic but it would work equally well with an Orphic.
Start with both cards in one side of the wallet and the gaff black side up in the other.
Say that you are going to show how a magician would commit credit card fraud. This should immediately generate interest.
Explain that it wouldn’t be ethical to use the participant’s card so we will pretend this card is theirs. Open the wallet and give them the orange card, leaving the wallet open. Say that there is some important info you need to commit card fraud. Take the black card from the wallet and point out the long number saying “You need the long number”. Turn the black card over and point to the cvv (the 3 numbers) and say “You also need the 3 numbers on the back”. Point out these are unique and compare them to the numbers on the orange card they are holding.
You have now shown both sides of both cards without making a big deal of it. They are still holding the orange one.
Put the black card away and put the wallet on the table, doing the switch if using an Orphic. Say “but the holy grail is your PIN code. Of course just as it wouldn’t be ethical to use your card the same is true of your pin so we will create a random pin based on numbers from your life”.
Here you can either use my Poison Pin routine from Harpacrown Too, or you can use Peter Turner’s Life equation pin. Or you can simply have them write down their made up pin and use your favourite P**k.
Having revealed their pin, say “Now all I need to do is to get your card details. The easiest way is to clone your card” Now take out the gaff from the wallet. They have already seen both sides so there is no heat on the card.
Perform the clone as per the instructions. When you do the flushstration count, point out the cvv on the first card and then turn over the second card and comment that even the cvv matches.
Hand the orange card back to the participant saying “this one is yours, make sure I haven’t damaged it” (subtle way of letting them examine it without saying examine it).
After they have looked at it, say “oh wait, it’s mine“ This makes sense because it is actually yours. Hold out your hand and they will hand you the card. Use Daley’s delight to switch the cards as you say “This one is yours”.
The switch happens on the off beat because they think they are just giving you your card back, they are not expecting you to give them the other one.
So there you have it a nice mind reading routine that has a magical kicker. They see both sides of both cards at the beginning and they apparently examine both at the end.
Also if you want it for your social media you can lend them the card and set them up for the pin reveal before the cameras are rolling giving you an absolute miracle where the reactions are not lessened by the “pre-show”.
Mark
This is great. And I just tested it with the Modern Z Wallet Pro by Patrick Kun and it's PERFECT for this. You go to take out the gimmick card, get your PIN peek (you can do this in the newest version of the wallet) and it's perfectly motivated. Everything just rolls together perfectly.
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