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rutabaga
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Hello friends,

I haven't posted here for a good while (though I've dipped in now and then to check things out!). Coin magic was my great love growing up, and I got seriously back into it almost 20 years ago. So much fun! I was never great at it (I think confidence more than technical barriers haha. I could never really shake running when not being chased!), but I sure learned a LOT from all the great coin guys here.

Sadly, arthritis is now seriously affecting my hands. Some of my fingers cannot straighten beyond 45 degrees, and my palms have developed odd and distracting bumps.

I'm sure I'm not alone in the coin magic world dealing with this affliction, and hope others might have some advice for me. I don't intend to be a professional haha, but I used to enjoy performing the occasional little miracle I fear that time may be over for me.

Looking at where coin magic is now, with such amazing talent as Danny Goldsmith around, gives me great pleasure. Personally, I resigned myself to being the audience when I saw the crazy work by Ponta years ago. I tended to stick to the Slydini, Ramsey, and Roth effects as more in my (just, lol) abilities technically. So many of these legends have been lost to us now – especially David Roth, and if I may say Todd Lassen, from whom I bought most of my gaffs.

So thank you for your attention, and if you have any tips on limited and/or distracting hands, I look forward to your reply!
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I know Funsway suffers from some similar problems, and either released a book or has one underway talking about some solutions to it.
He might chime in to this thread, or you could reach out directly.
Not all the answers you wanted, but it's a start!
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In his final years, Roth developed arthritis with swollen knuckles, and couldn't perform (and believe me, he was extremely frustrated by this!). He went to several doctors, and none could figure out a cause. One of the things he told me that helped, was putting his hands into melted wax (my guess was that it was cool enough not to burn him, but warm enough to help the circulation). Anyway, he said that he always felt better after the treatment.
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I find the billiard ball roll as an exercise to be good and I think it is the sideways stretch that helps. The width of the ball spreads the fingers apart sideways which action is rarely used in day to day life. Luckily I have billiard balls-Vernet are good. Lately I found a ball of modeling clay to be good too.

The Chinese have the idea of exercising the muscles to open and pull back the hand and fingers - up to the wrist, to offset the over-use of the muscles that close or clench the hand. (The muscles are on the back of the forearm and cables of tendon go under the wrist fascia to the fingers.) I taught anatomy for artists and am not a doctor but as a sleight-of-hand artist I pick up what I can.
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P.s. Sorry-an afterthought, if you spread out your hand like a starfish, and really work at it like isometrics...then arch your hand back at the wrist...another good stretch. Books on the martial art of Aikido have hand and wrist exercises that are unique. All these exercises and stretches have to be done regularly to help.
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Some solutions depend on the type of arthritis involved, especially response to medication. Pain reduction minimized sensitivity too.

The big problem for me is confidence in not dropping a coin, or knowing where in hand it is at the moment.
I have changed palming methods over the years in an attempt to adjust, now using mostly Liwag Subtlety and Palmer Clip.

I often cannot open a TUC anymore by most techniques described in my book.

On the plus side, my quest for alternative methods has led to the development of many new coin effects/routines,
with special thanks to MB and Tim Feher for insisting I keep trying many years ago.
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On Nov 12, 2022, funsway wrote:
Some solutions depend on the type of arthritis involved, especially response to medication. Pain reduction minimized sensitivity too.

The big problem for me is confidence in not dropping a coin, or knowing where in hand it is at the moment.
I have changed palming methods over the years in an attempt to adjust, now using mostly Liwag Subtlety and Palmer Clip.

I often cannot open a TUC anymore by most techniques described in my book.

On the plus side, my quest for alternative methods has led to the development of many new coin effects/routines,
with special thanks to MB and Tim Feher for insisting I keep trying many years ago.


Thanks for this – yes, I could see how one would be forced to be inventive in certain areas! Aside from dexterity issues, I'm feeling my hands themselves are drawing a bt of attention, they are slightly knarled. People probably thuink I'm holding out when I'm bot just by the way some fingers curl haha.
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Https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7889887/

There's actually a lot of information down these lines, on the internet.

We have used 'Bor' very effectively, for the past ten years;

in fighting,..'curing?' Arthritis, in the knees, of my Lady,...a Tap Dancer.

I hope it can help you, as well.

gallagher
rutabaga
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On Nov 13, 2022, gallagher wrote:
Https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7889887/

There's actually a lot of information down these lines, on the internet.

We have used 'Bor' very effectively, for the past ten years;

in fighting,..'curing?' Arthritis, in the knees, of my Lady,...a Tap Dancer.

I hope it can help you, as well.

gallagher


Thanks so much, I'll check it out!
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