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pointStack New user 90 Posts |
"I've got a deck of cards" or words to that effect. Do most magicians think that spectators don't recognize a deck of cards when they see one???
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wizardofsorts Special user Chicago, IL 935 Posts |
Sorry this isn't meant as a flame but what really bugs me are magicians that use the word "muggles" to describe our audience. We already have much better words to use for non-magicians; lay people, laity, just to name two. We don't need to plagiarize from JK Rowling.
Edd
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Mystician Inner circle Wallachia 3485 Posts |
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On 2004-07-27 02:21, Bill Palmer wrote: LOL That might be usable ! Do the usual "we" line, then stop and say, "Did I just say "we" again ? I do have a tapeworm, you know " A magical tapeworm maybe even !
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Mystician Inner circle Wallachia 3485 Posts |
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On 2005-01-06 14:26, Clifford the Red wrote: No, because nobody does those things as a hobby. "Hi, I just read Gray's Anatomy, can I try taking your tonsils out ?" There are, however, plenty of amateur magicians. I've never heard of an amateur doctor or lawyer either .. although some might qualify ..
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BlackShadow Special user London UK 666 Posts |
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Maybe trying to involve the audience in the effect by some devious subconscious suggestion? |
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Clifford the Red Inner circle LA, California 1941 Posts |
[quote]On 2005-01-12 00:06, Cyberhagen wrote:
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No, because nobody does those things as a hobby. This is an art; there is a difference. And to earn the title "professional", a doctor/lawyer/accountant goes through years of advanced education, goes through horrendous tests for proficiency, and acquires several years of experience in the field just to earn the title. Thereafter, they devote a large number of hours yearly to professional education. The purpose of magicians proclaiming they are a "professional" encompasses NONE of this, although they hope some of the association of the title rubs off on them. The only purpose is to proclaim they get some money from doing magic. So what?
"The universe is full of magical things, waiting for our wits to grow sharper." Eden Philpotts
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Mystician Inner circle Wallachia 3485 Posts |
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Well, that's exactly what professional means - you make money at it. Even if you graduate medical school, if you don't have a running practice or decide to sell used cars instead, you are not a professional doctor. Having said that though, yeah, I kinda agree with you now that you make that point - I've made my share of money playing in bands over the years, all kinds of gigs, but nobody, including me, ever referred to themselves as a "professional musician", we were all just musicians. Old music joke: What do you call a guy with no talent that likes to hang around with musicians ? .. a drummer
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
"We'll use some indifferent spot cards".
What in the world does that mean. It's so dumb. "We'll use a few magical props". Another dumb one. DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
I'll stick with "muggles". It specifies non-magic using people. Laity or laymen are generic terms and also have been pretty much taken to imply religions as opposed to secular context. I don't see this as plagiarizing JK Rowling, as it is an OPEN reference to her works. From my perspective at least the parallel, in terms of our world of gimmicks, procedures and "occult" concerns versus the mundane world of explicit rules and expectations our audiences live with is strong enough to merit the use of her term. If you are suggesting we contact Ms. Rowling about using her word before taking it into our culture, I agree that would be a respectful thing. It would also likely get us some publicity.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Nick Wait Inner circle Lichfield, UK 1042 Posts |
I've heard at a magic show,someone tell the audience:
"Now for a trick with a dove pan" |
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Dr_Stephen_Midnight Inner circle SW Ohio, USA 1555 Posts |
(to other magicians) "It can't be done any way but THIS way."
Steve
Dr. Lao: "Do you know what wisdom is?"
Mike: "No." Dr. Lao: "Wise answer." |
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Shnarker New user Pittsburgh, PA 89 Posts |
"As I cast a shadow upon the deck"
OMG, that drives me crazy....overused and overkill for sure. |
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
" I'll put the card in the middle of the center" This has been used by a magician I know for a decade and it still drives me crazy.
Rannie
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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Eric Leclerc Inner circle Ottawa Ontario 1185 Posts |
I think we hit it right on. Why people hate magicians. People don't generally like magicians because we generally treat our spectators like they are mentally challenged.
-"I have here a bunch of elastics, just like you would have at the office". (they aren't stupid they know what elastics or cards or coins or anything you whip out that doesn't look like a hot rod) and when we do take out the hot rod, we won't say "its a piece of plastic with stickers or cheap beads on it", We'll say "a magical rainbow stick with diamonds, that was given to me by an old magician once". Please... be real with your spectators. -Secondly, I think we give WAY to many orders for a guy in a weird suit interrupting a conversation totally unannounced. "Take a card, sign it, put the lid back on, place it in the middle, shuffle them". Even if we're polite and likeable and say "would you please" or "if you may" in between, we give WAY too many orders to strangers to be pleasant. -Calling everything ordinary.. "I have here an ordinary coin...." paranoid much? -"As I riffle through the cards" ummmmm they don't know what that means -"Call out stop when you feel is right" call out stop? What? (then when they don't say stop because you weren't clear make sure to insult them and say something like "I'll do it slower for you". -Snapping fingers, getting adults to blow on things, or even say magic words... Nothing better to see a grown man blowing on another's closed fist. One that has not been mentioned here and I think SOO many performers do it "if I take magical pixie dust" or "invisible magic powder" or "special invisible blend of crystal meth" just for a reason to go in your pocket? Wow, plan your routine better and stop it with the dust... they think you belong in rehab when we do this. -For my first/next trick... shaky. -I will throw the ball in the air and it disappears, "just like that". Hmmmmmm. -"No way shape or form". Thanks, Kreskin. I could obviously go on but I think the initial post on the thread is explanatory of why people don't really relate nor care for magicians. We need our own vocabulary..... hmmmmmmmmm was this post too long? |
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Josh Riel Inner circle of hell 1995 Posts |
While doing a few tricks for a good freind I once said, "here, I'll show you an incredible trick with a thumb tip"
Strange how he was not fooled when the silk vanished. Yes, the words we use can make a bit of difference.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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Khopri Loyal user Austin, TX 237 Posts |
An important thing to consider for any magician whether a new or seasoned veteran:
Patter is everything. The problem is that most magicians don't focus too much on this part. Instead they work and perfect their technique on sleights, hand movements, and the mechanics of the trick itself, but when it comes to talking about the trick, they fall pretty flat. It's always been my problem. |
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Tim Sutton Elite user Tim Sutton AIMC, London UK 461 Posts |
"Pasteboards".. I mean, c'mooooon..
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KerryJK Special user Northampton UK 621 Posts |
Gauche overuse of the Elmsley count;
Magi: I have here four cards... look, one, two, three, four.. Spectator: Excuse me, I'd like to stop you for a moment at this point. I don't know, maybe you had a traumatic experience being turned down for a job on "Sesame Street", but I'd just like to point out that I graduated kindergarten thirty years ago, I now work for a large corporation where I am responsible for millions of dollars of turnover and at the risk of blowing my own trumpet I rather feel I am capable of counting four objects, you moron! |
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Hip-Hop Magician New user 17 Posts |
Sponge ball routine: "Hold out your hand... OK, flat, just like that. Have you seen these before? No? OK, well they're sponges. Now look, 1+1 is how many? 2? Alright, cool. (Hands sponges to spectator *female*) OK, now squeeze my balls." LMAO HAAAAAAAAAAA I BOUGHT A CHEEZY MAGIC DVD LAST YEAR AND I ALMOST DIED WHEN HE SAID IT!
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
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On 2005-02-15 02:18, Eric Leclerc wrote: RIFFLE verb riffled, riffling, riffles verb, transitive 1. Games. To shuffle (playing cards) by holding part of a deck in each hand and raising up the edges before releasing them to fall alternately in one stack. 2. To thumb through (the pages of a book, for example). Should magic educate as well as entertain?
"America's Foremost Satirical Magician" -- Jeff McBride.
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