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akxi
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This is what I want:

A gimmick that can hold a small packet of cards together, but which for all practical purposes, is invisible. The gimmick should also be possible to remove without the spectators noticing.

Envision that you could hand out the deck for shuffling, then upon receiving the deck you can immediately locate the packet of say four aces. You can the secretly remove the gimmick and proceed to do some sort of four ace miracle.

All suggestions for possible solutions to this challenge are highly appreciated.
PS: Obviously I do not want to palm the aces onto the deck after shuffling. The solution should aim to minimize any deck handling between the deck is shuffled and the moment the four aces are being located on top of the deck.

Best regards,

Aksel
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On Jan 6, 2023, akxi wrote:
Obviously I do not want to palm the aces onto the deck after shuffling. The solution should aim to minimize any deck handling between the deck is shuffled and the moment the four aces are being located on top of the deck.

Best regards,

Aksel


Adding on palmed cards is minimal handling of the deck. If you're looking for a spectator to shuffle a deck and the aces are loaded onto the deck without you handling it then that doesn't exist or at least it doesn't exist in any form that wouldn't be more suspicious.
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If you're looking for a spectator to shuffle a deck and the aces are loaded onto the deck without you handling it then that doesn't exist or at least it doesn't exist in any form that wouldn't be more suspicious.


You can skip the loading part and have the aces in the deck from the start. There is a very clever way to do that -- feel free to PM me about it.

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On Jan 6, 2023, akxi wrote:
This is what I want:

A gimmick that can hold a small packet of cards together, but which for all practical purposes, is invisible. The gimmick should also be possible to remove without the spectators noticing.


I have seen exactly the gimmick you are thinking of. I think it was made with fishing line. Or it might have been invisible thread. A spectator shuffled the deck without noticing the packet. The magician took the deck back, located the packet by touch, and removed the thread without anyone noticing.

I am pretty sure it was in a Penguin lecture, but can't remember whose at the moment. What I can remember (I think) was that the guy was not a great card man, but he had come up with this solution that allowed him to avoid using deft sleight of hand. I'll see if I can track down which one it was.
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On Jan 6, 2023, akxi wrote:
This is what I want:

A gimmick that can hold a small packet of cards together, but which for all practical purposes, is invisible. The gimmick should also be possible to remove without the spectators noticing.


I have seen exactly the gimmick you are thinking of. I think it was made with fishing line. Or it might have been invisible thread. A spectator shuffled the deck without noticing the packet. The magician took the deck back, located the packet by touch, and removed the thread without anyone noticing.

I am pretty sure it was in a Penguin lecture, but can't remember whose at the moment. What I can remember (I think) was that the guy was not a great card man, but he had come up with this solution that allowed him to avoid using deft sleight of hand. I'll see if I can track down which one it was.

Yes! That method is in print too! I remember!
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Oh, I see. He wanted the cards to be in the deck from the start not loaded in using a gimmick. Totally misunderstood the question.
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On Jan 6, 2023, akxi wrote:
This is what I want:

A gimmick that can hold a small packet of cards together, but which for all practical purposes, is invisible. The gimmick should also be possible to remove without the spectators noticing.


I have seen exactly the gimmick you are thinking of. I think it was made with fishing line. Or it might have been invisible thread. A spectator shuffled the deck without noticing the packet. The magician took the deck back, located the packet by touch, and removed the thread without anyone noticing.

I am pretty sure it was in a Penguin lecture, but can't remember whose at the moment. What I can remember (I think) was that the guy was not a great card man, but he had come up with this solution that allowed him to avoid using deft sleight of hand. I'll see if I can track down which one it was.

Yes! That method is in print too! I remember!


Thanks for the info! I have been thinking along the same lines as fishing line Smile Please revert me to the Penguin lecture if it comes to mind (or the print).

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akxi
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On Jan 7, 2023, Nikodemus wrote:
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On Jan 6, 2023, akxi wrote:
This is what I want:

A gimmick that can hold a small packet of cards together, but which for all practical purposes, is invisible. The gimmick should also be possible to remove without the spectators noticing.


I have seen exactly the gimmick you are thinking of. I think it was made with fishing line. Or it might have been invisible thread. A spectator shuffled the deck without noticing the packet. The magician took the deck back, located the packet by touch, and removed the thread without anyone noticing.

I am pretty sure it was in a Penguin lecture, but can't remember whose at the moment. What I can remember (I think) was that the guy was not a great card man, but he had come up with this solution that allowed him to avoid using deft sleight of hand. I'll see if I can track down which one it was.

Yes! That method is in print too! I remember!


Would be great if I could get the name of the print so I could research it Smile

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Charles Gauci -
https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/4607

My memory was faulty. Charles shuffled the deck - NOT the spectator.
He had a stack of about half the deck, not just 4 cards. If you used his method with 4 cards, maybe you could let a spectator shuffle, and they wouldn't notice? I don't know.
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Why not just use a stripper deck?
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On Jan 6, 2023, akxi wrote:
This is what I want:

A gimmick that can hold a small packet of cards together, but which for all practical purposes, is invisible. The gimmick should also be possible to remove without the spectators noticing.


I have seen exactly the gimmick you are thinking of. I think it was made with fishing line. Or it might have been invisible thread. A spectator shuffled the deck without noticing the packet. The magician took the deck back, located the packet by touch, and removed the thread without anyone noticing.

I am pretty sure it was in a Penguin lecture, but can't remember whose at the moment. What I can remember (I think) was that the guy was not a great card man, but he had come up with this solution that allowed him to avoid using deft sleight of hand. I'll see if I can track down which one it was.


The Exchange Deck by Tomas Medina has a fishing line running through much of the middle of the deck. It helps you switch a card or a packet/group of cards excellently. It is out of stock everywhere but I have seen it on walmart's site of all places.
https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/868
https://www.walmart.com/ip/The-Exchange-......39410420
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As far as a gaff that can hold 4 cards together (minus the fishing line) there was a set a few years ago called “Magneato Cards” by Card-Shark and Haines Kotch (I am fairly sure I butchered that name) the 2 “gaffs” would stay together in the proper orientation and their “field” was strong enough to still hold with a few cards in between.
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