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justdig New user 5 Posts |
I recently dug out my Royal Road to Card Magic (which I was given at too young an age, and admit to pretty much discarding it after a few pages) and was reading about the classic force. 've decided to do what the book suggested, i.e., get a few tricks where I can practice forcing a card, but which don't actually need a card to be forced for the trick itself. As you probably picked up, I'm somewhat (read: very) new to this, so any suggestions?
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NeoMagic Inner circle I have... 2017 Posts |
I'd have thought most pick-a-card tricks would fit the bill. There's plenty in RRTCM.
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paulajayne Inner circle London England 1160 Posts |
Hi,
As long as you can control a card then anything, and if the classic goes wrong then revert to control of the chosen card. Paula
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justdig New user 5 Posts |
Well, sure. I just want something where I feel relatively safe.
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NeoMagic Inner circle I have... 2017 Posts |
"Relatively safe" about what?
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bvbernard New user North Vancouver, BC, Canada 95 Posts |
Whit Hadyn's Chicago Surprise gives you the chance to use the Classic Force and gives a very nice out if you miss. It takes away the worry of missing and gives a strong finish either way.
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Mike Walton Special user Chicago 984 Posts |
Red Hot Mama/Chicago Opener is a great routine that I use all of the time. The first selection is a random selection so it's an ideal opportunity to practice the classic force.
As was mentioned earlier, any random pick a card effect is an ideal opportunity to practice your classic force. Shuffle the deck, do a swing cut and bring the decks halves together with a break and try to classic force the card just above the break. There is no risk as the spectator may choose ANY card; it's just an exercise for you. |
LeConte Special user Bay area 830 Posts |
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On 2004-07-05 18:38, bvbernard wrote: There is no better trick for working on your classic force. I cannot stress how great this manuscript is. If you miss with your classic force in the effect, the out is almost as good if not better! Well worth getting! Nice work, Whit Haydn!
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chrisrkline Special user Little Rock 965 Posts |
Well, everyone else jumped in before me, but I third Haydn's Chicago Surprise. I will also add that his essays on magic, that come with the manuscript are excellent.
Chris
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dluong Regular user 118 Posts |
To practice...just do any pick a card trick that doesn't require a forced card but try to force it anyways...and if you do get them to choose the right card...then jump into a trick that does need a forced card instead.
on the demo video in "pyrotechnic pasteboards" by gregory wilson on penguin magic...gregory wilson used the classic force to make the lady choose the two of something...he kinda missed and before she could touch the cards...he closed up the deck and told her "keep in mind that you can choose any of these cardsd...top, bottom, middle, any" and he gave it a second try...i think...check it out |
Chris Thibault Elite user Massachusetts 469 Posts |
Another vote for Whit's "Chicago Surprise." This routine helped me so much with my classic force!
-Chris
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Leeman Special user Hollywood, CA 709 Posts |
Before most of the tricks I do I try to classic force the joker and if it looks like they are going to take it I saw take any card as long as it's not the joker. it is a little gag and you can keep having him take the card if you want and it becomes a trick in itself. but if he doesn't pick the joker then no problem you just do the trick you were planning on doing I the first place. this goes along with just using the force when you don't have to but it can be quite funny if you can keep forcing the same card on them.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
ALL where you spread the deck for a selection. Really, what better way to practice?
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ABlair36 Loyal user Toronto 234 Posts |
You can perform Play it Straight Triumph but try to classic force a specific card. You have a 13 card leeway. You can try to classic force a card and have one effect if you performed it successfully (like a prediction or mind reading effect) and one if you didn't (like any pick a card trick).
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joeKing Special user United States 979 Posts |
In ANY routine that has a card selected (free choice) try to classic force a card...This will give you a lot of practice in the timing and workings of the force.
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU! :-P
~joeKing
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dynamiteassasin Inner circle Naval Air Facility, Atsugi, Japan 1158 Posts |
I suggest when you do the the Classsic Force, you not let the specatator touch the card. You spread the cards and let the spectator say stop anytime. When she says stop, out-jogg the force card. It leaves you clean and more accurate.
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Matt Bartz Loyal user Gilbert, Arizona 251 Posts |
Cast my vote for Chicago Surprise by Whit Haydn...Not only does it have a fantastic "out" in the even of a missed force, it also is a breathtaking trick that floors people. Whit's explanation makes it almost impossible to mess up the trick even if you miss the force. The manuscript also has a good deal of magic theory in it that is very practical and a bonus explaination for the brainwave deck that is also killer. Good luck.
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