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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1914 Posts 
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I didn't get to amend my previous post before DJG's.
It should have also stated the Ripper idea I gave there was one I've had in mind for years as I've long had a fascination with that subject. The problem has always been in finding a good artist who would be able to do such a thing justice. On another note, DJG's routine has a really nice idea in it which I don't believe I've seen anywhere before. I can't say much about that, but if/when he ever releases it, I'm sure it will stimulate some good conversation.
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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1914 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2023, JDobbs wrote: Not entirely sure I understand what you're saying there as applying the binary principle to any group of items you want to work with is a matter of 5 minutes. Very easy to do. Creating the pictures/photos on the other hand... that takes a lot more creativity and imagination. 
Ideally, the photo/pictures should look very different from one another.
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 2111 Posts
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Great points to which we have, SNAPS and ABSee.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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Nathan Alexander Inner circle 2229 Posts
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Sudo, if anyone can take this principle in new directions, you can. I’d love to see your mind on this.
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Winnes Elite user 500 Posts
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If you’re interested in looking at other directions for this I would, un ironically and with absolute sincerity, recommend Webers material. Regardless of whatever shenanigans has gone on here, he still has some great work.
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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1914 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2023, Nathan Alexander wrote: Thanks for the confidence, Nathan! Admittedly, I have been thinking about it a lot lately.
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rbromley Regular user USA 175 Posts
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On Feb 18, 2023, Noobmaster69 wrote: Good to know. Thanks! |
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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1914 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2023, EZrhythm wrote: I believe you may have misinterpreted what I was trying to get across as both of those items are simply cards with pictures of a single thing on them and are not binary oriented. What I'm suggesting is different: You will have 4 photos/picture cards. Each has a number of different objects tastefully arranged on it, but as part of an overall scene. Going back to the Ripper theme - or even a "Clue" theme, we could have a a different room in the background of each pic, but with different possible weapons and/or suspects shown, for example. Does that make sense?
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Wravyn Inner circle 4235 Posts
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On Feb 18, 2023, Nathan Alexander wrote: I second that thought. |
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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1914 Posts
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Getting back to the "Clue" theme I was using above, this would make for a nice 3 person demonstration: One person thinks of a weapon, one the room, and the other, the killer. As the psychic detective, you divine all. "It was Mrs. Peacock, in the ballroom, with the wrench."
Again, this is just an example. The possibilities really are endless and this is just scratching the surface. You are not limited to using and revealing just one category of item/thing exclusively - like in EDCeipt - and everything else. Here we have a person, place, and a thing revealed with just one set of cards.
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 2111 Posts
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Brilliant thoughts! Thank You for elaborating on that.
The magician did it in his study room with the metal practice cards. 
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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Thomas Walter Special user Well, it is strange that at my age, I certanly should have more than 569 Posts
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Now when we really have gone off topic, why not take a look at Max Mavens 'Racers's Edge' in 'The Violet Book of Mentalism', now reprinted in 'Prism'.
Binary, but no numbers, just horses! Excellent! Well it is Max! |
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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1914 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2023, EZrhythm wrote: The ventriloquist did it in the dressing room, with the mime, er, I mean... the finger chopper. 
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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1914 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2023, Thomas Walter wrote: Indeed. It's funny (or perhaps sad) how little this has been mentioned in this thread. The major contribution in Max's routine is the Inverse Binary Principle; it's far more advantageous than the regular. As for going off-topic, well, this entire thread has been off-topic from the very first post. It's nice to see that it has finally simmered down, though.
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mike donoghue Inner circle 1321 Posts
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Un masked & d j d
No high horse & my magic skills are quite good ( as in about 250 paid events a year good ) . Also it’s predictive text not bad grammatical error ( I am quite educated) , it’s just I am on here fleetingly ( left the Café for a few years because of its mentality, but then returned) No other reasons I am now back but to me a lot of people seem to have ‘soap opera’ mentality & seem to be on here just to argue & promote controversy. Nothing to add really No need to even respond to me with what I have said as past caring & past trying to help people . Onwards & upwards Chill pill people |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 2203 Posts
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Using images with the BP is a good idea and definitely worth exploring. However, I don't think that there is anything wrong (or necessarily unimaginative) about using lists. I do a few mental magic tricks using lists related to improving your memory skills via mnemonics.
I've long thought this method could be combined with a Dobble-style "spot the difference" game. Disguising it as a children's matching game could be fun, and the process of the game would hide the necessary process. Marty |
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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1914 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2023, martyjacobs wrote: You're right; there's nothing wrong with using lists. I was referring specifically to commercial tricks (like EDCeipt) where nothing special or new is added, Marty. Let's be honest; EDCeipt isn't that imaginative in terms of advancement - which is always my primary concern in this art as a creator who is heavily focused on methodology advancement and refinement. It has already been done before by others prior to Craig's release, and so the ball hasn't really been kicked any further down the field with EDCeipt.
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dirtyfoucault Special user UK 854 Posts
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Actually quite like it applied to receipts. It's a logical item I'd actually be carrying in everyday life, rather than anything special. There's a value to naturalism if that fits in with your performance style. There's nothing wrong with a simple list if it's done right. But of course there's always value in exploring alternatives which may be better suited to different performers. It doesn't have to be a binary choice
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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1914 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2023, dirtyfoucault wrote: No argument there; it's certainly not unnatural to carry receipts for some people. I have no issue with that.
The point I'm trying to make in my previous posts is that there has been very little innovation at all with this methodology since its inception. To this day, people are still focused on using it with LISTS OF WORDS and NUMBERS when there is so much room for innovation. It's got me thinking more deeply on the subject than I have in many years. Imagine for example, that you had a beautiful framed painting hanging on your wall at home. A guest comments on the painting and you show him a few others you also have around your house... Again, the possibilities are staggering.
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1tepa1 Inner circle 1389 Posts
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On Feb 19, 2023, Sudo Nimh wrote: Sudo, the idea of using pictures you mentioned sounds really nice. Without going into the presentation possibilities, you could have five photographs, five scenes in which there are bunch of strangely colored items. Then getting them to discard the pictures where that object is not, you say that the same objects may appear in other pictures but notice that they are different colors. Lets say they keep 3 photos, so their object is on all three pictures but each time it is in different color. You ask the spectator to imagine the object with all three colors melted together and send it to you. And you reveal the item "I see a yellow banana with green and black spots." |
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