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Yes Transaction uses the UF Grant principle.
PRESET by Alex Alejandro & Dan Harlan now available for a special introductory price!
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On Feb 19, 2023, Mac_Stone wrote:
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On Feb 19, 2023, Thomas Walter wrote:
Now when we really have gone off topic, why not take a look at Max Mavens 'Racers's Edge' in 'The Violet Book of Mentalism', now reprinted in 'Prism'.
Binary, but no numbers, just horses!
Excellent! Well it is Max!


Indeed. It's funny (or perhaps sad) how little this has been mentioned in this thread. The major contribution in Max's routine is the Inverse Binary Principle; it's far more advantageous than the regular.


I've mentioned it plenty.


Pete Turner also mentions it in his section of the tutorial.
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On Feb 19, 2023, bobgill wrote:
It would be interesting to be able to compare EDCeipt with TRANSACTION by Paul Fowler. [link: https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S34553] Similar effect (Transaction seems to use 'real' receipts rather than Tyvek) with completely different methods. Has anyone had the opportunity to look at both?



Yea, good question. They just came out with a US version from walmart and costco. I asked a question about the prices on the receipts. As soon as I get an answer I may purchase it and compare.


I purchased “Transaction” by Paul Fowler. I am sure some love it, but I have an issue with the 2 hour instructional video. I find it hard to remain interested to be able to learn the method he uses. Otherwise, the receipts are on what appears to be plain paper, dosen’t feel like receipt paper at all.
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Paul mentioned that the props were printed on premium thermal paper, not regular paper (although some receipts from small, independent shops are printed on this type of paper).

I've just written a short blog post on these two effects and some of the challenges associated with performing with special receipts:

Receiptful Practices

It expands on some of the presentational ideas mentioned in this thread.

Marty
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On Feb 19, 2023, Thomas Walter wrote:
Now when we really have gone off topic, why not take a look at Max Mavens 'Racers's Edge' in 'The Violet Book of Mentalism', now reprinted in 'Prism'.
Binary, but no numbers, just horses!
Excellent! Well it is Max!


Indeed. It's funny (or perhaps sad) how little this has been mentioned in this thread. The major contribution in Max's routine is the Inverse Binary Principle; it's far more advantageous than the regular.



I've mentioned it plenty.


Yes, you've been one of the few. Smile
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On Feb 19, 2023, influentialist wrote:


Pete Turner also mentions it in his section of the tutorial.


This confuses me a bit seeing as the props included work in completely the opposite way, unless Peter suggests completely reworking the props to make them work in this way. But be honest, this is the way the props should have been made in the first place.

Does Peter mention Max when discussing reverse binary?
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There is a lot of critique on this page but interestingly the only person who said they actually performed it said it got a great reaction and they had no idea how it was done.


Thank you. Nobody seems to care about that around here.

Well, I’m going to keep performing it because it’s a killer.

It genuinely appears that I can read minds.

Nobody is looking at the prices or any misspellings— meanwhile do you think supermarkets spell every item correctly?

Doubtful.

But everyone should keep arguing about this —-I’ll just keep performing it and impress people w my apparent mind reading skills.

Also,CP’s routine is skillfully built and creates real drama…..

The method is invisible to laypeople


Yes, that's right: Why bother being annoyed about paying money for something with spelling mistakes in it? No one can spell anymore anyways - not even grocery stores! Who cares about spelling! Might as well screw math while we're at it, too. No one needs to learn simple math when we have calculators on our phones! Is there are any reason to learn simple math anymore? Doubtful. Heck, my kids can't even read a normal clock face! Seriously, you guys can sit and bicker all you want about the constant and steady dumbing down of society and erosion of standards. As for me, I'm going to rejoice in it and thank goodness that I have learned just enough simple math to be able to perform this amazing feat which I can use to convince people that I'm an actual mind-reader! You guys clearly have no idea how good and invisible this method is and Craig Petty FTW and GOAT!

I'm sorry; I just couldn't help it. I don't normally joke around like this, but my funny bone is in a weird place today. Smile

The future is looking pretty grim. Will we one day reach a point when those who can press the play button on an mp3 player get compared to the (actual) genius of Beethoven or Mozart?
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Paul mentioned that the props were printed on premium thermal paper, not regular paper (although some receipts from small, independent shops are printed on this type of paper).

I've just written a short blog post on these two effects and some of the challenges associated with performing with special receipts:

Receiptful Practices

It expands on some of the presentational ideas mentioned in this thread.

Marty


Just read your blogpost, Marty. It's very well-written and insightful. I also appreciate that you chose to focus on positivity.
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The brand names are copyright protected, so the spellings are there for a reason. [/quote]

Smile Smile Smile

OMG that’s hilarious, I literally laughed out loud. OMG I needed a good laugh and that was it. Smile Thanks for that.
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Take a peek at Ozz Symons' "Guess Zoo". It make use of drawings of zoo animals, with the Magic Age Cards principle.


Where might this be found, Tom? Is it a marketed effect or in a book?

My girlfriend have a set, but I'm actually not sure where to get it. Probably best to write him and ask: https://www.manofmagic.co.uk/contact.html
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Thanks for the info, Tom.
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Just read your blogpost, Marty. It's very well-written and insightful. I also appreciate that you chose to focus on positivity.


Thanks, Sudo.

Marty

P.S. I also share your dislike for smartphones and apps. I don't own a smartphone, never have and never will. Sherry Turkle's writings convinced me I'd be better off without one.
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All controversy aside (and I was on Craig's side in principle), if a creator can't be bothered to check for typos I'm out. Maybe I'm a bit over-sensitive having recently bought a couple of expensive, apparently well-liked book tests only to find them littered with lazy mistakes. Why go to the trouble of producing something if you're not going to check it over?

If newguy can spell, I'm willing to switch allegiances. Smile
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Maybe Craig can chime in as this may have been a production error from how Murphy's had it produced. If so, are you going to leave the allegience of Murphy's? Smile
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It could have been prices in pounds weren't converted to dollars. And in doing a quick search, some of the brands (at least 2) aren't in the UK. As I mentioned, while it drives me crazy, I would pay extra for an error free set.
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If newguy can spell, I'm willing to switch allegiances. Smile


As I recall, there were quite a few spelling mistakes and typos in the instructions supplied by Real Secrets (which didn't spoil my enjoyment of them). So I think the answer to your question is a resounding no!

Proofreading seems to be an underrated art form.

Marty
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On Feb 19, 2023, martyjacobs wrote:
Paul mentioned that the props were printed on premium thermal paper, not regular paper (although some receipts from small, independent shops are printed on this type of paper).

I've just written a short blog post on these two effects and some of the challenges associated with performing with special receipts:

Receiptful Practices

It expands on some of the presentational ideas mentioned in this thread.

Marty


Hey Marty - I read your blog post. It's great. I can see how using some of your ideas; I like the idea of being a "receipt collector" and also using props from a friend's party (I was thinking maybe I had a friend who was a film maker and he gave me these props he made so I could try a magic trick with them...) anyway, your ideas solve a lot of potential problems with EDCeipt and I appreciate your thinking. thanks.
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The two un-named bullies behind this are Michael Webber and Tim Trono.

A simple search of the Conjuring Archive for 'Matrix Receipts" pulls up one hit, Michael Webber and points straight to the Genii Magazine issue that Craig talks about in this video. https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/se......receipts

I've been around long enough and also have a friend who was a member of RS/neutral & mutual friend of both Trono and Webber. I've just got off this phone with him after his lunch and he's confirmed that it's this pair. Again.

This isn't the first time they've done this (Tim is usually Michael's lap dog and does most of the barking for him), there's more times that even you don't know about Craig, but if they're as smart as they think they both are, this is the last.

They're the very definition of bullies and whenever I hear mention the phrase "magic mafia" those are always the first two names that come to mind. Spineless. Slimy. Bullies.

Magic is a better place for people like you. Arrogant narcissists like Trono, Webber and all those who bow down to their false idols drag OUR art down with them.


Magic has ALWAYS been abut incremental inspiration. I think Weber and Trono need to get off their high horse and stop whining. Craig has created a good incremental development, get over it!

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On Feb 19, 2023, martyjacobs wrote:
Paul mentioned that the props were printed on premium thermal paper, not regular paper (although some receipts from small, independent shops are printed on this type of paper).

I've just written a short blog post on these two effects and some of the challenges associated with performing with special receipts:

Receiptful Practices

It expands on some of the presentational ideas mentioned in this thread.

Marty

Marty, those are great suggestions you posted in your blog, especially your final suggestion on how to justify the receipts. Thanks for sharing those with everyone.
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Magicians upset they are fooled by an account named newguy. Seriously, only funnier if it was an experienced woman.

I have to wonder how many people with faux outrage have multiple social media accounts.

Anyways, Craig has given proper credit. MW said CP won, which to me was a blessing to release.

Cant wait to see the new routines on this project. And binary principle is very powerful, I have some advance math principles that can take it to the next level. You guys should really read a logic book to see the potential.
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