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leipzisch Inner circle 1408 Posts 
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I look forward to Craig's video unveiling the Magic Mafia...
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eddie1 Loyal user UK 285 Posts
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Indeed… was glad to see some positivity on this thread though
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Joe Roberts Special user 928 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2023, leipzisch wrote: I agree. The more details we have on what's been really going on behind the scenes the better. |
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NYCJoePitt Special user 561 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2023, leipzisch wrote: Everyone, please stop feeding this troll. They appear to be very hungry! 
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leipzisch Inner circle 1408 Posts
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"Trolls are people who leave intentionally provocative or offensive messages on the internet in order to get attention, cause trouble or upset someone."
NYC, I think your post might just cover all three. Well done! |
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1281 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2023, eddie1 wrote: This raises a general question, how does someone buy "rights" to a trick if its method is not covered by patent or copy right protection?
Bob
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User101 Regular user 186 Posts
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Love the Freudian slip Craig "But RED never went away and I have coke to realise that it never will."
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TStone V.I.P. Stockholm, Sweden 825 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2023, Intrepid wrote: In documenting magic works, we usually apply two labels. One is used to label the actual work, the part you can perform, the part that forms the fiction or the drama. The other label is to describe our guesses, or our wishful thinking, regarding how an onlooker might interpret the performed work. Unfortunately, the former label is also a word that has a different meaning in IP legislation, as it has very specific and narrow definition within patent law where it means something akin to 'scientific process' or 'industrial manufacturing process'. It is just like the word "equivoque" that have a specific definition within magic, despite having a completely incompatible definition in the rest of the world. Regardless of how you label it, the part that can be performed is covered by copyright. |
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1281 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2023, TStone wrote: Thanks Tom. Appreciate that insightful bit of information. Overall, this thread has been one of the most interesting and educational discussions I've seen in a long time.
Bob
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JDobbs New user 95 Posts
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On Feb 13, 2023, Intrepid wrote: The reason why Elon Musk does not “Patent” his product is it becomes part of the public domain and is easily copied by anyoen with an internet access to the USPTO (for US patents). Without Patent, you have to buy the product and reverse engineer in order to steal it; making it less worthy to create copies. In reality, when a patent is not issued, the laws, in the US at least, give the first whom creates it the right of ownership. However, this also has to be available in the public domain where the second creator must have knowledge of the first product. People can come up with the same method and idea for anything, but if the first doesn’t bring it to market for the general public, they lose the ability to challenge and stop the first person to the market with it. In this case, “AGE receipts” was never brought to the market in the past. IT was only given to a select few and they were prohibited from sharing it. Making this not in the market. Therefore, Real Secrets don’t have a claim to this at this point. IMO…. Back to the topic of this post, can’t want for mine to arrive so I can enjoy watching and learning this method. |
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equivoque Special user 898 Posts
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My brothers and sisters, respect for your knowledge of the law, ethics and magic history. I think that every single opinion that anyone could have on this topic has already been stated. Let the creators of both the effects work it out. Go practice, perform or create magic. I’m begging you, stop posting on this thread.
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Steven Conner Inner circle 2788 Posts
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Magicians have a tendency to beat a dead horse to death. As said earlier, time to move on.
"The New York Papers," Mark Twain once said,"have long known that no large question is ever really settled until I have been consulted; it is the way they feel about it, and they show it by always sending to me when they get uneasy. "
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DJG Inner circle 1426 Posts
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Here's the issue: I want to talk about the effect. Do I start a new thread? Will people jump on it to start arguing again? How can this die a peaceful death?
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 2111 Posts
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Post in the Tricks and Effects section and see.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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Eoin OHare New user Ireland 92 Posts
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Can we get Everythingmagicpro to review both tricks?
Designer & Maker of The Stripper Jig Card Trimmer & Pinpoint Pegger
https://theperfectshuffle.com/ |
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BMWGuy Inner circle Texas 2615 Posts
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Hey guys,
I have both effects. I can review them if you like. Both of them serve a purpose and are different. I actually posted a partial review of Peter Turner's section, Lloyd Barnes section, and Peter Nardi's section, but nobody wanted to hear it, since everyone was focused on other matters Let me know Alex
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Alewishus Inner circle parts unknown 1230 Posts
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On Feb 14, 2023, Steven Conner wrote: Wow, I'd pay real money to see this trick! A.
Sack subs, ok Ross?
We miss you asper. |
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strollingmagician Veteran user 306 Posts
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Can I get a refund for the past 20 years? My god.
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Nathan Alexander Inner circle 2208 Posts
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I respect Craig even more from his last post. If you read this, chin up. Your humbleness and integrity is clear.
You just owned everything. Most of us don’t. People need to read the post if they haven’t. No one can take anything from you anymore. And that freedom is true power. Back to the trick… |
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The Unmasked Magician Inner circle If only I didn't have a wife and a kid I would have MUCH more than 3240 Posts
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X2. The truth does set you free.
Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
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