I released New Wave Prediction by Bob King and called it RED. In the past before the release it happened to be one of my favourite tricks. I have no idea why that happened or what I was thinking. I've thought about it a hundreds times. I could make excuses and say that I'd forgotten the trick but the bottom line is I knew about it and I stole it.[sic]

On Feb 14, 2023, martyjacobs wrote:

I own the original "Age Receipts" as a charter member of Real Secrets; I enjoyed many of the tricks mailed to me, including this one. It was a fun club while it lasted. "Age Receipts" is a neat trick and deserves to be credited in this new release (now that Craig is aware of its existence). I also don't have a problem with the way the receipts look. They're not as well designed as the ones included in this new release, but, for that reason, they look like the sort of thing that you'd get from a local independent shop.

Any creator with a trick that was sent out to only the Real Secrets group, perhaps this is a wake up call and you should publish your tricks now or forever hold your peace. Also, since this is a Trade Secret, Craig is only at fault if he knew of the existence of real secrets age receipt prior to development; which he didn’t. And no claim of such was ever made to that by anyone involved. So I say no credit is needed.

On Feb 14, 2023, martyjacobs wrote:

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Any creator with a trick that was sent out to only the Real Secrets group, perhaps this is a wake up call and you should publish your tricks now or forever hold your peace. Also, since this is a Trade Secret, Craig is only at fault if he knew of the existence of real secrets age receipt prior to development; which he didn’t. And no claim of such was ever made to that by anyone involved. So I say no credit is needed.

Craig cannot be blamed for not knowing about the Real Secrets release. Unless you were a member, there wasn't an easy way of finding out what tricks were included in the club. However, now that the trick is essentially public knowledge, he should amend the credits for EDCeipt. This is standard practice for any publisher of magic. The nature of the initial publication is irrelevant. Even if a single copy of a trick is published, then it should be credited. If we start making random exceptions, it opens the doors for other publishers of magic to engage in poor crediting practices.

Marty

On Feb 14, 2023, CoinBoy101 wrote:
It's time to focus on what's been released and I have the following thoughts by way of a brief review of EDCeipts:

The amount of ideas and alternative routines provided in many hours of videos is phenomenal. I have only watched the main tutorial and the Pete Turner additional video so far but these two videos alone make this a superb instructional download, in addition to the provided receipts etc.

I have a couple of thoughts about the included receipts which are not huge issues but, for me, would make this an even better product.

First, all the receipts are of an identical length. It would, in my opinion, be better to have incorporated some additional spacing in some receipts to make them of different lengths. It's a minor thing but it would make the receipts just that bit more realistic.

Which leads to my second point. The receipts, as noted in the advertising and elsewhere, are made of Tyvek. I showed this effect to my grown-up adult daughter (in her 30s) and she said "these don't feel like real receipts". I have never used Tyvek before so to my knowledge she's never encountered this material. She loved the effect and was suitably baffled, but it took the edge off the reaction that she thought something was amiss. Then again, she's suspicious of anything I try on her!

I would welcome the option of purchasing a normal non-Tyvek till receipt version. Could this be made available, Craig? I'm aware of the discussions around Tyvek but I would have more confidence if the above changes were made or additional non-Tyvek receipts could be made available for purchase.

I don't want this to come across as a serious criticism. EDCeipts is a brilliant project and the tuition/ideas videos are superb. The cost of this effect is modest and I think excellent value. Even with a small amount of time spent with this effect, I look forward to carrying this around with me. It's super-easy to learn and there are so many different ideas to explore. Well done, Craig.

CoinBoy101

On Feb 14, 2023, CoinBoy101 wrote:
It's time to focus on what's been released and I have the following thoughts by way of a brief review of EDCeipts:

The amount of ideas and alternative routines provided in many hours of videos is phenomenal. I have only watched the main tutorial and the Pete Turner additional video so far but these two videos alone make this a superb instructional download, in addition to the provided receipts etc.

I have a couple of thoughts about the included receipts which are not huge issues but, for me, would make this an even better product.

First, all the receipts are of an identical length. It would, in my opinion, be better to have incorporated some additional spacing in some receipts to make them of different lengths. It's a minor thing but it would make the receipts just that bit more realistic.

Which leads to my second point. The receipts, as noted in the advertising and elsewhere, are made of Tyvek. I showed this effect to my grown-up adult daughter (in her 30s) and she said "these don't feel like real receipts". I have never used Tyvek before so to my knowledge she's never encountered this material. She loved the effect and was suitably baffled, but it took the edge off the reaction that she thought something was amiss. Then again, she's suspicious of anything I try on her!

I would welcome the option of purchasing a normal non-Tyvek till receipt version. Could this be made available, Craig? I'm aware of the discussions around Tyvek but I would have more confidence if the above changes were made or additional non-Tyvek receipts could be made available for purchase.

I don't want this to come across as a serious criticism. EDCeipts is a brilliant project and the tuition/ideas videos are superb. The cost of this effect is modest and I think excellent value. Even with a small amount of time spent with this effect, I look forward to carrying this around with me. It's super-easy to learn and there are so many different ideas to explore. Well done, Craig.

CoinBoy101

On Feb 14, 2023, Craig Petty wrote:
You can make loads of different types and styles of receipts and making them takes seconds. There are also loads of templates included. Also don't forget the files are included in the project so you can use these to create other receipts and print them on paper or thermal paper. Thermal printers are very cheap. Finally Pete talks about how you can make these using local shops on the fly.

Hope that helps and thanks again

First, all the receipts are of an identical length. It would, in my opinion, be better to have incorporated some additional spacing in some receipts to make them of different lengths. It's a minor thing but it would make the receipts just that bit more realistic.

On Feb 14, 2023, EZrhythm wrote:
Using receipts of a different length might be a small factor in revealing the method to some people or create suspicion. Although in another sense it could be an added benefit and used as an advantage by not having to view the receipts again after your audience has chosen an item. I look forward to experimenting with this.

On Feb 14, 2023, EZrhythm wrote:
Thank You, Craig! You can also buy receipt paper and use adhesive stick to hold it against standard copy paper to run through your printer and print your own. Here is another receipt design site- http://www.fakereceipt.us/sales_receipt.php

On Feb 14, 2023, EZrhythm wrote:
I just use roughing stick, Elmer's repositional stick, etc.
I also use a laser printer so there is no rub off. -Hope this helps!