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Big Daddy Cool![]() Inner circle 1600 Posts ![]() |
This is a post I originally posted in the Time After Time Forum, but thought it might edify those who frequent this forum as well.
The post is in answer to Steven Barney's question about how to develop personality. The thread eventually came down to character. Here is my reply... Actually developing a character or performance persona is really not as difficult as you think. But it is a lot of work. (I know a lot of you just tuned out...) In a nutshell, you must make a conscious decision about who you are going to be on stage and commit to it. I call this "Creating a Character."
And I didn't even mention that if you work with an assistant or larger cast, every person in the cast must follow these steps through the time, space and weight stage as well. And, as you are examining your repertoire you are also going to eliminate any magic that isn't commercial and appealing to a lay audience. Screw the magic guys and the judges. Think about the audience. Gosh, I hope this helps. There are a lot of other resources available as well. One good source is Rich Tenance's column at http://www.Online-Visions.com and this is a regular topic on the Kevin James Forum at www.kjmagic.com. |
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Richard Allen![]() New user 66 Posts ![]() |
Great post! I'll take some of these things into consideration.
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Dennis Michael![]() Inner circle Southern, NJ 6018 Posts ![]() |
What you write is really brief in understanding the complexity of self and the character you protray.
As I read each line, one could write a chapter (maybe a small book) on the topic (13 chapters or books). Thanks, it is put together well and requires a lot of DEEP thought!
Dennis Michael
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Paul Romhany![]() V.I.P. Canada 799 Posts ![]() |
Check out Marvyn Roy's (Mr. Electric) lecture notes on developing a character and that type of act. Worth searching for.
"life is like a movie ... you write your own ending" - Kermit the Frog
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ColinB![]() Regular user 129 Posts ![]() |
BDC, this is one of the most excellent, pertinent and useful posts I've seen regarding magic—stuff so often overlooked or simply not considered, worth so much more than simply chasing the next "killer" trick in the hope that it will finally make one a magician.
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Mike Wild![]() Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts ![]() |
I hate to be a drag Big Daddy, but sometimes character and persona are just that, your personality and your presence. I didn't spend anytime figuring myself out, or what parts I wanted emphasis put on. I just started doing magic at about 10 years old... poorly scripted, under rehearsed, and typical for a 10-year-old. Over time my personality matured, my performance abilities matured, and one day I found myself bartending and prestidigitating for pay.
I've tried to put a game face together, but just being myself seems to suffice. May not pull it together for a stage act though... In that situation getting "into character" is part of the gig. No one wants to sit in a chair 30 feet away and try to watch me being me, however, put them in a bar stool, three feet away, and I'm a big big hit. ![]() Best to the Cool One from the Wild One, Mike |
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watchdog![]() New user 19 Posts ![]() |
There is a wonderful piece in the new MAGIC about characters.
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Big Daddy Cool![]() Inner circle 1600 Posts ![]() |
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On 2004-07-06 19:55, DenDowhy wrote: Exactly! But we don't have that kind of room or time here, do we? ![]() Quote:
On 2004-07-06 22:18, WildStone wrote: Mike, Part of what I wrote addressed just being yourself. That is actually an intentional character choice. What I recommend here is that even if one is just being themselves, that they make all of the choices intentional and not random. You've done well to this point, but I can guarantee you that if you actually put this process to work, that you will go even further! |
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Mike Wild![]() Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts ![]() |
I'm never "intentionally" me... When I am me, it's usually as a result of some horrible mistake!
![]() I hear ya B.D., just having some fun, and being me... whoops! There it goes again. Best, Anyone but Mike :hysteric: |
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prettylady1990![]() Loyal user 206 Posts ![]() |
Bravo Bravo big Daddy Cool
I think this post is FANTASTIC. I'll use this advise. And once again I think that this post is one of the best I have read |
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Big Daddy Cool![]() Inner circle 1600 Posts ![]() |
Hey thanks for all of the great feedack. This is the stuff I really get into. For those who have requested the essays and additional info I mentioned... Sorry to take so long getting it out. I've not been able to locate the disc with all of my archives on it. I have everyone's info and promise that as soon as I locate it I'll send it out.
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Neale Bacon![]() Inner circle Burnaby BC Canada 1775 Posts ![]() |
BDC, thanks for the great ideas and thoughts on charcter.
Murray (Sawchuck) was at our recent magic weekend and in his lecture also talked about not only a charcter but a "look" I am refining my charcter and am now in search of costuming. The character is sort of a cartoon me or exagerated me (who can spell!). When I started in magic many years ago, I tried to be the Copperfield-style performer and it just wasn't me. With my look now (shaved head etc) I have become that funny Uncle who tells funny stories and shows tricks and does ventriloquism (I do kids shows) and it works, but costuming is my biggest puzzle. I guess costuming should be another thread tho...
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Big Daddy Cool![]() Inner circle 1600 Posts ![]() |
No, costuming is an intregal part of character development.
Here is how you determine what your costume should be... Write a character bio - Step # 6 Once you figure out who this character is, where he has been, and what he's done, and when he lives, costuming will become more clear. At first glance I would guess that loud, mismatched, oversized clothes may be a suitable choice. Or if the "uncle" is more of a Mister Rogers type, then a shirt tie and cardigan sweater may be the way to go. There is no right or wrong way to go, but you must decide how the character would dress! |
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PinkGlove![]() New user Bude England 78 Posts ![]() |
Thanks, this has been an excellent help to me, helping my get my feet on the ground.
Trust anyone who has gone through it.
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Doug Higley![]() V.I.P. 1942 - 2022 7165 Posts ![]() |
Ok...BD...I did the above and came up with a real bummer. My character is homeless and works out of a shopping cart.
Wait a minute...I put number 9 first. Hmmm back to the drawing board. Doug
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JimMaloney![]() Inner circle 1184 Posts ![]() |
Actually, that sounds like a perfectly viable character! Didn't Tina Lenert have a cleaning lady act?
-Jim
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Big Daddy Cool![]() Inner circle 1600 Posts ![]() |
One of the best acts I've ever seen.
And think about the emotional, social, and psychological issues that could be addressed by such a character. Whoopi Goldberg's "Fantima" character was a homeless crack addict that was really impactful. |
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JimMaloney![]() Inner circle 1184 Posts ![]() |
BDC -- Going back to the crime scene analogy: Do you think that a person can be a killer in one effect and a victim in another? Or do you think it's better to consistently be one of the three for each effect in the act?
Or perhaps you're a killer most of the time, but maybe once during the course of the act you'll witness some of the magic? -Jim
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Big Daddy Cool![]() Inner circle 1600 Posts ![]() |
Jim, don't know why I didn't respond earlier - But great question. You could do either actually. However, I would never recommend switch hitting to a new performer. An experienced one could do it though. But, personally, I think that it is better to maintain consistency.
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Danny T.![]() New user New York 39 Posts ![]() |
"Mastering the Art of Magic" Eugene Burger
"Maximum Entertainment" Ken Werber "Showmanship for Magicians" Dariel Fitskee "Strong Magic" Darwin Ortiz "Magic in Theory" Peter Lamont and Richard Wiseman "Magic by Misdirection" Dariel Fitskee "The Books of Wonder" Tommy Wonder and Steven Minch "Theatrical Magic" Eugene Goyle Read this and that will be the end of this post and 90% of the posts in the entire Café. By the way this is probably my last post. good luck everyone.
Magic is a dream in which we put ourselves in the fantasy of the reality that surrounds us. It's a wishful thinking that all human kind posses. It's life itself. And I for one believe in it.
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