Basically looking for effects that only use the four ace? No gaff no extra cards.

A little back ground,
I have a great routine that uses Dr Daleys last card based around the idea of a lesson of "don't trust this accent with cards on the street".
Also I do twisting the Aces with a expliation of what magicians talk about when we are together.

Each routine works really well and they seem to follow each other nice. One use no spectators but the other I can use a spectator. And they both use only the four aces.
So is are there any other effects just using the 4 Aces?

It's certainly beyond my skill, but I believe Phoenix Aces fits your criteria. Greg Wilson does a version of it.

You could fit The Asher Twist in.

Overture - Phil Goldstein (aka Max Maven) in his book Focus
Peek-A-Boo Aces in The Card Magic of Nick Trost (a little mental reading trick using the one-way principle)

Mark

Hi friends thank you so much for all this info. Building up a few options whilst I was googling one I found this thread from a few years back.
https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......&forum=2

Awsome work!

Fearson’s Aces

“ A spectator selects one of the four aces from their own deck under the fairest conditions.

You never even touch their cards and yet you are able to reveal their chosen ace!

This is mental magic at it's best!”

Bullet Train by John Carney.

Scott.

I was going to suggest Fearson's Aces but mantel beat me to it!

Hey !

you should take a look at Bullet train AKA aces up the sleeves from John Carney ( Carnercopia ) 4 aces travel from your sleeve !

Bebel - Mabillon ( aces to pocket / 4 cards repeat )

https://youtu.be/27lyLl58tHE

And what about a switch at the end of your set …
your 4 aces with ‘’ blue or red back ‘’ for 4 aces with ‘’ 4 aces with different colours back ‘’ … !

Martin Gardner's All the Nonconformists is lovely. Michael Ammar teaches it on one of his Easy to Master Card Miracles dvd's, and Michael Skinner on one of his dvd's (I forget which one). Just make sure your spectators aren't color-blind! They have to be able to distinguish between red and blue backs.

See Card College n° 5 from Giobbi with a whole series of tricks that could fit your description nicely : Thompson Aces / The sign of four / Study for 4 aces /etc…