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On 2004-07-28 07:20, charliemagic wrote:
I tried letting the spectator deal to his number as suggested in the thread. I tried it twice with magicians & it seems that the spectator needs to keep the packet squared as the cards are dealt else the 'work' is seen..
Seems natural to NOT have it stayed squared as you deal a card.
I will deal from now on..



before you hand the spectator the deck, you can do "an extra move" to fix your problem. PM me if your not sure Smile
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Can this trick be done with jumbo cards?

Best,
Darío
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....Mini, Poker, Bridge, Jumbo, Tarot, Borrowed... ANY type of (regular) deck.


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On 2004-07-13 01:51, PalmBeachGuy wrote:

The more I think about this, the more I can see how I could adapt it to work in their hands! I would have to stop them counting for a moment with a perfectly valid reason. And I have already come up with a good one of those. Then we would continue the count, again with them holding the deck!




I like having it work in the spec's hands.

However, I start dealing and stop briefly. I pick up a black envelope containing the prediction card which has been on the table the entire time. And I give them the deck so they can finish dealing to the card. I hand the envelope to the spec and have them open it revealing the prediction card.
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I was able to add another kicker to this effect by adding a card to impossible location whammy at the end. (I prefer to use it as a mentalist effect though) As the spec removed the prediction card from the envelope, he asked "How did the card get into the envelope?" At that point, the card they counted to was long gone.
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Hi, if anyone is interested in this one, pse pm me. Thanks!
If you are going to Puerto Vallarta on your acations, let me know and write me a PM. I am interested in meeting magicians.
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On 2005-03-16 02:50, kevvy wrote:

I was able to add another kicker to this effect by adding a card to impossible location whammy at the end. (I prefer to use it as a mentalist effect though) As the spec removed the prediction card from the envelope, he asked "How did the card get into the envelope?" At that point, the card they counted to was long gone.




That's not a good idea. A lot pf people have the false impression that aadding kickers makes an effect better. It's just not so. Plus, anything Goldman puts out has been performed, improved and honed over hundreds if not thousands of performances.
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On 2005-11-08 21:47, ixnay66 wrote:
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On 2005-03-16 02:50, kevvy wrote:

I was able to add another kicker to this effect by adding a card to impossible location whammy at the end. (I prefer to use it as a mentalist effect though) As the spec removed the prediction card from the envelope, he asked "How did the card get into the envelope?" At that point, the card they counted to was long gone.




That's not a good idea. A lot pf people have the false impression that aadding kickers makes an effect better. It's just not so. Plus, anything Goldman puts out has been performed, improved and honed over hundreds if not thousands of performances.


Well, my experience proves it is a good idea....For me, anyway. (I no longer use that idea though ) And no, the objective wasn't to make the effect "better". I like to try different ideas and see what happens.

If you are content with what is written in the instructions, then fine. However, there are those of us who like to use our imagination and occasionally we go beyond the instructions.


Someone did this with Bill Goldman's Mental Yarn and came up with an idea that improved the handling so much that I no longer perform this as Bill Goldman explains in the instructions.

Yes, Goldman's effects have been honed over thousands of performances. However, he could possibly discover a new method tomorrow that improves the effect even more. As I stated, I like using different ideas. I use Barrie Richardson's 'Synergistic Memory Demonstration' in Act Two which is the same as Boomerang. But Barrie incorporates a killer idea that enables you to set up the deck under the spec's nose. Actually, Boomerang itself could be viewed as the kicker in this routine.

Kickers can be really good and they can be a positive addition to an effect. One example is Michael Ammar's kicker to Harry Lorayne's impromptu OOTW. Fortunately, there have been several creative minds who weren't content with the fact that effects have been "performed, improved and honed over hundreds if not thousands of performances".
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Yeah...I'm sure you know best. I should have realized just how creative you were. I'm so sorry.
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On 2005-11-15 16:36, ixnay66 wrote:
Yeah...I'm sure you know best.


Thanks.

But for this effect, I would say Barrie Richardson knows best.



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I should have realized just how creative you were. I'm so sorry.


I forgive you. Smile
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Ok, what I would really like to know....if somebody could maybe pm me? is how do you do the little setup right in front of their eyes. Which one is the most practical method for you? A pass?
If you are going to Puerto Vallarta on your acations, let me know and write me a PM. I am interested in meeting magicians.
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I just got this trick and love it. I would welcome some advice on how to set it up on the fly as suggested and also on how to get the deck "clean" afterwards so can do more tricks with same normal deck. Thanks.
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