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Jeff Haas
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That's OK, Jonathan, my routine with yurts and Mongolians is different enough.

Jeff

P.S. The final load is a steaming serving of Mongolian BBQ!
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On 2004-07-28 19:08, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
Here is an idea for the crafty, igloos and little furry Eskimos. The igloos
are the cups and the brown fuzz ball like caricatures (like weebles)are
Eskimos. The white fuzz ball things can be caricatures of polar bears.


A few years ago I played with some igloo shaped coffee cups, trying to use fake ice cubes as balls, final loads, etc.

My original idea was to use Michael Ammars ice routines from his big book in combination with the cups- adding a unique twist and second climax. (Mixing the "devils miracle" with the cups in a twisted way)

The igloo idea was in mind, but it just didn't pan out the way that I wanted. In the end, it was another routine that was better as an idea.

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Have you considered using the production of the balls as an opener? A modified David Roth's Three Ball Routine works for me and a reversing of the old Salt Shaker through the table trick to produce the cups under the premise of being unprepared can really grab attention. Also those little nesting Russian dolls can be lots of fun as a final load, especially when the last doll holds something special or related to another part of the big picture. P.S. Clear glasses with double sided mirrors inside could hold a lot of possibilities if properly handled.
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MinnesotaChef had a great idea! Especially for table hopping. Vanish a salt shaker then go straight into the cups and balls and for the final load reappear the salt shaker and say, "Thought you might need this when your food comes"
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Are there cups around where you can actually load the salt, the pepper, and the sweetener dispensers?
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Cups?

If you were hiding the sweetener dispenser I think you'd need a champaign or ice bucket.

Perhaps buckets and bowling balls with a duck for a final load.<g>

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Speaking of the Penn and Teller routine.... their expose was just that. But it was done in a way that was quick and confusing... yet entertaining. I personally liked it. They performed it regular and then did it with clear cups and exposed it and went at like 5x speed. At the end you were still left wondering how did they do that even though you saw it right there. Definitley out of the box...
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On 2004-07-28 16:36, Doug Peters wrote:
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You shouldn't be caught during this sequence. Maybe your loads are too large.
The first time I did the Defiance II loading, I was nailed to the wall. I almost came to the conclusion that there was a mistake in the writing, as the written instructions are, frankly, insufficient to generate the necessary misdirection. (This is not to say that it cannot be done, but that, as is often the case, something gets lost in the translation to instructions).

But something about the challenge/the approach was very appealing, and I modified the structure of the final phase until I thought I had a working solution. I believe I do. And I'm getting better at the timing/technique thing, too. But with large crowds of children, misdirection can sometimes be non-trivial. Smile
But by that stage in the show, they have too much respect to burn me if they catch me Smile



Here's a bit more about that loading -- Milt Kort used something like it in his mini cups routine -- or at least, he used that principle. I'm not saying Reed knocked it off from Milt. I saw the same basic idea in a routine in an issue of The Linking Ring from 1956, when I was doing some research this afternoon on the Chop cup.

Reed's misdirection is the key here, and the rest of it is fairly sketchy. It lies in the positions of the hands.

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On 2004-08-01 09:20, rikbrooks wrote:
MinnesotaChef had a great idea! Especially for table hopping. Vanish a salt shaker then go straight into the cups and balls and for the final load reappear the salt shaker and say, "Thought you might need this when your food comes"


Supreme made a leather chop cup years ago, which was knocked off by Tannen's. It was a perfect size for the salt and pepper shakers that we used at Shakey's when I was working there. They were one of my favorite loads.
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