What presentation do you use for the Twistin the Aces effect?

I use Ammar's presentation but I would love to know others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDciO3AtvpQ

Thanks!

I've worked on a presentation in which I "peak" at the cards as a way of cheating. I think it has legs but could use a bit more work. Feel free to run with it. I have thought also of doing it as a way of pretending to reveal, tongue in cheek, the "secret markings" on the back of the cards, like, as I reveal one face up I say, "Can you see the marks on this five of clubs... it's only visible from the right angle..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDQfiA4i3js



P.S. I'm looking for a forum these days, perhaps invite only, on which to have serious conversation about Steve Forte's GSOH material. Suggestions?

Here's my handling and presentation:

https://youtu.be/95c5GcvL6Z4

I like to say that the aces enjoy playing this game where they turn over one at a time for warm up.

Here's my presentation, it starts at 1.44

https://youtu.be/znwOO4ntrJs

Hi Warren,

Is it possible you gave us the wrong starting time? I started at 1.44 and didn't see any twisting.


Thanks,


Bob

Hi Fonda57,

Your idea intrigues me. It struck me that you could then go into another 4-ace trick now that they're warmed up. Maybe you already do that?


Bob

I’ve used Michael Ammar’s three trick sequence shown above in my table to table restaurant work for a number of years. Although, I use John Bannon’s version of the Doc Daley trick for the second phase. I especially like the patter about aces turning over in the spaces between the cards and the tie in to Card Warp.

I think somehow he linked the wrong video. Here's one that I found on his page.

https://youtu.be/klqUqMV9FY8

I like to get set up for Harry Lorayne's Four of a Kind while pulling out the aces, present Doc Daley's Last Trick and Twisting the Aces, and then go into Four of a Kind. Then sometimes I will perform also Vernon's Aces from HL's Close-up Card Magic.

The presentation I have been using most recently is with the Jacks, using them to represent four different people I tell a story about. In that way the revelation of each "twisted" Jack is somewhat suppressed, as folks are a little distracted with the story and are puzzled how exactly each "character" is showing up. It is not until the fourth Jack that I actively present the illusion by talking a bit while alternating Elmsley and Jordan counts, and then finally, magically, revealing the fourth Jack.

Thanks, Ray.

Bob

1. Welcome to the Café, jsbosco. Personifying the cards, as you do in your handling of "Twisting," is something that always appeals to me. I'd be interested to hear more detail (if you care to give it) about the way you end your effect, perhaps in a PM to avoid exposure.


Thanks,

Bob

2. Here's an idea I've been toying with. It's characteristic of my whimsical way of thinking, and may not be interesting to many other people. In fact, I'd appreciate feedback. If you've ever been in a region where there are prairie dogs, you'll notice that there seem not to be any, then suddenly you'll see one's head popping up out of its hole and immediately popping back down again. Then the prairie will be empty again, and then suddenly another one will do the same thing from a different hole. It's quite comical, like watching a cartoon.

So I thought of introducing the trick by describing the situation as above, and then having all-backs-showing be the prairie, and suddenly cards become visible for a moment like prairie dogs. The patter is meant for a Larry Jennings version of Twisting, in which a card turns face up, and then all the cards are face down, and then a second card turns up, and then all are face down, and so on.

Hi Warren,

I watched the video using the link that Ray posted. I have to give your "Twisting" more thought, but I wanted you to know how much I enjoyed the end of your routine -- the matrix-like coin assembly. I'd love to perform that, but first I'd need to get *really* good at making coins vanish, as you obviously have.


Bob

Thanks! Sent you a PM.

Bob G---another ace trick after twisting them is always fun!

Ha ha! Thanks Fonda. Right now Dr. Daley is the only 4-ace trick I know, but Twisting is high on the list.

Bob

I do it as teaching them a secret move. I give them a single card, and teach how to "twist" it. I then do the first three phases of the Vernon routine, but for the Ace of Spade I explain I can never get it to turn up...but if I hand the cards to someone who has just started learning magic...and they do the move...

Hey presto, the spade turns up in their hand after they do the move.

This is a very cool idea!

I will have to dig thru my notes to double check the source, but I recall a brief line in a book that suggests doing it as a transformation. The four cards start off as any four of a kind and one by one they turn into Aces, turning face up to effect the change. Not sure it's an improvement on the original, but I thought it was an interesting motivation for the Aces turning FU.

Do you know Dai Vernon's original presentation?

Thanks!